I find it a dodgy question. Its as impossible for me to answer as asking whether I have a have.
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Posts by philo
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13Man Has a Soul. What do You Believe Now?
by Treborr Jones ini was just wondering if the ex-jw's here now believe you have a soul, or do you still hold on to the borgs claims of man/woman not having a soul.
i for one know we do.
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When I met a WITCH in the ministry!!
by philo inmany who join the jws are running away from something.
nothing unusual about that, it happens in relationships.
but i didn;t know about that in 1987.. it was one field service weekday, as a fresh faced, new convert on the doors.
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Many who join the JWs are running away from something. Nothing unusual about that, it happens in relationships. But I didn;t know about that in 1987.
It was one field service weekday, as a fresh faced, new convert on the doors. I should have been chasing tail, getting work experience or an education, but instead I was studying with the masters at the university of Not-today-thank-you, and thumping doors. Still, I was happy enough.
A woman of about 30 answered the door. In retrospect, she was gorgeous, I mean 100% organic produce, but I was a too-young 17 and couldn't see it.
Anyway, she stood there and seemed completely in control of the situation, unlike most people who answer the door who are looking about for reasons to get away, and she was looking AT me with intelligence. When my spiel about the Kingdom-universal-issue, bla bla bla dried up she asked if I was born a JW. No, I said, I wasn't. "So you really believe everything you've just told me?" Yes, I did. "Will you stay a JW for the rest of your life, bring up your children in your faith?" Well yes, I said I would. "Would you allow your children to die for want of a blood transfusion?" Here I hesitated to give the effect of being human, and said something like, yes, I would do that.
I allowed a second's silence, for her to be shocked by my super high-voltage faith, but she just kept looking at me, completely ignoring the old buffer-with-bible standing behind me. Then she wound up the conversation by telling me, without kindness or disapproval, that I had become a JW for personal reasons, not because of any universal issue, and that I would leave the JWs after a few years.
Was I spooked! It was like meeting a witch! I couldn’t see how she could be so confident in her own intelligence. Now I realise that she probably had either some history as a JW herself, or some relevant education. But I carried her words around with me for the whole time I was a dub, 14 years.
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Should mentally challenged be baptize as JW's
by spike inwe have a son of legal age,only mentally 5-8 years living with jw relatives.
he studies with the presiding overseer in the knowledge book and goes in service.
he wants to get baptized like his older brother.
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When I was doing my damnest to live by all the rules I felt damned, when I started to drop my standards I felt more confident, and by the time I left I was pretty breezy about the whole 'A' thing.
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Bloody vegetables, Bloody cat food......
by Englishman ini seem to remember that jw's were once forbidden to put this stuff on their vegetable gardens:.
or even to feed their animals with products that might contain blood:.
aren't we going just a little over the top here?.
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Anybody returned to black pudding (blutwurst) or blood sausage since leaving the org? Yum. Like pigs reaping in the vomit.
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What first made you doubt?
by Simon inthere will be one about what your favourite color is later... .
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First doubt:
Sitting behind a girl from the outcast-but-'spiritual' family during the memorial. I noticed dandruff on her grey coat, against the grey! And I was thinking, are all the girls in my life going to be like this.
YOu guessed, I later discovered she fancied me. But there's a happy ending. She found a postman on her pioneering ministry, kept knocking until she was DFd, and married him.
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Bloody vegetables, Bloody cat food......
by Englishman ini seem to remember that jw's were once forbidden to put this stuff on their vegetable gardens:.
or even to feed their animals with products that might contain blood:.
aren't we going just a little over the top here?.
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Last I heard it was still a no-no, one of those watery no-nos which when you ask follow up questions as a new dub, you get diverted.
Got me jar of Marmite since recently, E
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Flood and bristlecone pine
by Moxy ini mentioned that the dc in our area featured a talk where the speaker, as an illustration of endurance, mentioned methusaleh, the bristlecone pine that had lived for 4700+ years.
i asked here for some possible explanations of this that allow for the wt flood dating.
i had assumed that the standard response would be that the dating of the tree was wrong, that the rings had gotten doubled a few times or something.
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OK, so the waters weren't so salty back then - I goofed
I've just seen a fundy way out of this.
The flood waters covered the world's mountains, but some were more covered than others. Bristle cone mountains got only a splash and heavy drissle.
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Flood and bristlecone pine
by Moxy ini mentioned that the dc in our area featured a talk where the speaker, as an illustration of endurance, mentioned methusaleh, the bristlecone pine that had lived for 4700+ years.
i asked here for some possible explanations of this that allow for the wt flood dating.
i had assumed that the standard response would be that the dating of the tree was wrong, that the rings had gotten doubled a few times or something.
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Was it the dove which brought Noah back a bristle cone pine tree in its beak? Or was that the Raven?
But seriously, salt water soaked into a tree has to be deadly to it, it certainly kills grass when I drag my rubber dinghy accross the lawn after sailing.
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!st Century door-door question
by philo inanybody know about hospitality customs in jesus day?.
if the custom was to invite everyone who called inside your home for milk and cookies, and if it was rude to refuse this hospitality - the door-door ministry must have been sooo sloooow.. whatdja fink?.
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Aguest: thanks again for you help on this subject, also to Batman and eby for your posts, both very relevant and enlightening.
The scriptures you cited helped me see a continuous custom for providing hospitality, bordering on a law, and that personal, or perhaps family, honour was at stake. Hence, Abraham's insistent hospitality contrasted with the unreceptive ones neglect at the meal with Jesus: one was honourable the others were not (I wonder if honour is the best word). I thought Timothy 5:10 the most 'legislative' scripture, although it does not help determine the prevailing hospitality customs for Jews as such. But you HAVE convinced me.
A general thought about the JW preaching work.
JWs sometimes say apostates oppose their preaching work, and there's some truth in that. But they also heavily imply that this is because of their: wickedness, selfishness, or just plain laziness. "The first thing to happen to an apostate, is they deny the preaching work" That hasn't been my experience. All of this thread indicates that the JW's work is not commanded in scripture, but that doesn't make it wrong . What is wrong is the requirement on JWs that they have to do it to be Christians: it's the command not the work that's the problem, especially when you recall Paul's "some as evangelisers, some as prophets, some as teachers" This is old hat to many, I'm sure, but it's new to me, so I thought I'd summarise my thoughts.
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