Maximus,
philo.
the problem is not the disfellowshipping itself but the shunning most of us don't accept.
i'm not so much against the disfellowshipping but shunning because it doesn't help anybody to repent some possible gross sin.
the situation is still more worse if you disagree with one or more of the wts teachings.
Maximus,
philo.
i'll start it off with:.
#1 attendants wearing attendant badges.. cheers,.
ozzie.
#3 Fred Hall.
Btw, I'm pretty sure YK is dying for an invite.
philo
chuck you pest
what are your thoughts?
have the officials of the wts read coc?
do you think or feel that they read "apostate" material regularly?
If for no other reason, I reckon they have all read Franz's books out of personal vanity. I know in their places I'd read it!
philo
the local branch office coordinator, mr. kankaanpaa, delivered the final speech in the summer convention held in tampere, the third largest city here in finland, and demanded all the ex-jw's to return back to the org.
suddenly he began to weep.
when he got his emotions under control, he instantly returned to the tradiotional wt phraseology: threats, intimitation and almost name calling (you know, that apostate stuff).
Yes, that is a curious approach, demanding our return. I wonder if the org has ever considered making changes to allow people to do that.
Welcome Liquidiser!
philo
"six things that jehovah hates, yes seven... hands that are shedding innocent blood.
jehovah made this rule, but seems never to have kept it.
babies killed at the flood were innocent but god killed them, the firstborn sons of egypt were innocent but he killed them, jesus was innocent, but god required his death too.
"Six things that Jehovah hates, yes seven… hands that are shedding innocent blood."
Jehovah made this rule, but seems never to have kept it. Babies killed at the flood were innocent but God killed them, the firstborn sons of Egypt were innocent but he killed them, Jesus was innocent, but God required his death too. God goes further, and implicates all his servants in the bloodletting of the innocents: requiring his armies to 'devote to destruction' whole cities, even nations. Instructions such as, 'let not your eye feel sorry for the mother or suckling child,' were issued by his prophets and were obeyed.
Nowadays, Jehovah's blood-lust has not slowed by much, for his 'witnesses' still sacrifice themselves at his altar, or their innocent children, even babies who are completely innocent, knowing nothing about their parent's sanguinary God, Jehovah, or his ambitious organisation, even these are offered up. And looking forward, as JWs now do, to a global judgement involving the deaths of 6-7+ billion humans, Jehovah appears to be preparing his masterpiece of bloodletting. So Jehovah has done more than fail himself and humanity, he has been the most enduring and notorious violator of his own standards. Merely describing Jehovah as a hypocrite is too much of an understatement, it is like calling Joseph Stalin a thug.
And He never found within His heart
The forgiveness of mere men
But needed the blood of innocence,
To drip and stick
Upon his altars, again and again
philo
hello everyone,.
i am bill's wife.he just called me from washington and told me to let you all know that erica won her case today!.
that sick child molesting bastard is in jail now as we speak.. his sentencing is set for september 24th i think.. one down many more to go.. thanks to all who have supported this cause.. sheila
**100
philo
i may be asking a question that's already been addressed on another thread.
if so, kindly redirect me.
i read this post on another thread, which made me ask a question.
For me, the bible is old literature. It's about answers and questions, but one can't sum it up with anything so trite as 'the washing machine manual for living' as per JWs. The more I read it the more diverse it appears in it's scope, and the less relevant for today, especially when you consider Science.
The bible writings have been treasured through the ages more highly that any rare commodity, and so they have been subjugated by jealous authorities. My hunch is that these jealous ones have never been the same ones who did the writing, as creativity tends to be radical more often than conservative.
philo
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it is called: .
the power of ah!
Then again our loveliest ladies are Tinaaaah, Sheilaaah, Gloriaaaah, Esthaaaah etc etc.
Hey, you missed out Priscahhh, Gsahhhrk, and Peacelovehahhhrmony...oh and Joelbeahhhr.
philooooh
hey anyone else come across this passage in genesis and wondered what the heck happened??.
new american standard bible (nasb).
footnotes are in paranthesis and bold.
Let me go, for the dawn is breaking.''
It sounds SO Buffy, to me. God is a vampire, and long may she kick ass.
philo
apparently it is a fact that af has been subjected to professional psychiatric aid.
i applaud the fact that he once was able to bring himself to that point.
by why has he abandoned real mental help and replaced it with places like this?
Calling you dumb 39 times, Mishnah, would that make someone insane? In your progressive opinion, I suppose it would. But if they called you dumb for defending dumb positions, i.e. for skirting around or ignoring copious evidence that contradicted those dumb positions, wouldn't that be fair? I found AF's use of 'dumb' excessive, but in the context of his tireless and painstaking debate with Dunnscot, perfectly understandable. Looking back on your posts, I am far more concerned about your mental health than Alan's.
:Cyber-therapy
You could have said common interests, shared histories, and friendships? It's not so snappy, but it's more accurate.
:proof
No. It was a shot in the dark, that's all.
I'm afraid that's all we have time for this session, Mishnah.
Philo