about 45min ago - on short notice -, german tv magazine kontraste ( http://www.kontraste.de) broadcasted a very well researched report on child abuse within the jw community.
the report was only 10min long, but it was german prime time - the very first topic after the most watched daily news magazine.
kontraste (contrasts) is very reputable tv magazine.. two victims were interviewed and a jw spokesman.
Hello German.
Thank you very much for your interesting post. Sorry you had to stay up so late, but what you did was important and we appreciate your efforts. Keep up the good work and we look forward to reading posts of yours in the future. Keep us informed of what is happening in germany. The whole world needs to know the facts.
i know a couple of sisters who have been canseled by the elders for wearing a little bit to short skirt.
i just wonder what serena's elders think when they see pictures of her like this in magazines.
is she still in good standing?
Rachel you are right. Jehovah does detest wrong doing.
So how do you think he views the wrongly abused victims of the pedophiles in the jw org. and the policies of wbts that in effect help the pedophile and add to the injury to the victims.
Don't tell me this does not happen. It happened to one of my daughters and as usual the elders chose to do nothing. This in spite of the fact that 5 victims came forwrd and the elders chose to believe only 2. My daughter and one other sister.
This devastated my daughter. Then when I told the elders of this they told me that how she accepts their actions depended a great deal on how I accepted their actions.
So now it is my responsibility to convince my daughter that the elders are right in their actions.
This whole thing made me sick.
well, here's another nail for the coffin: my son requested this info to show his jw sister.
washington, d.c. 20549.
form 10-ksb.
This post confirms that the wbts does own a large share of this company. The fact, if it is a fact, that they have no control over this company does not relieve them of responsibility. If you own shares in a company you will benefit from its profits. So the wbts recieves revenue from this company for the shares owned.
Maybe the wbts justifies this using the new approach to military service. It is a matter of conscience. Obviously they have no consience.
i ask this because many religious people i speak to seem traumatised by there x religious beliefs,there minds seem unbalanced not being able to deal with reality.they also tell me they have nightmares about things like end of the world,being at their old church,etc etc,are any of you on here going through things like this.they also seem confused in what do with there lives and in what directions to take.
I had the misfortune of being raised in the troof? So my mind and mental awareness were you might say hard wired to believe the wbts in spite of real life experiences that told me otherwise. This type of conflict and the arrogance in some elders caused me to be a very angry person with no known reason to be angry. I did not know the source of the anger because my hard wired brain would not aim it in the correct direction. At the wbts. With the failed 1975 prophesy I lost any trust I had for them. Yet I had this anger and a desire to walk away. Then there is the issue of a wife that had more respect for the GB as she told me than she had for me. On top of that I still had an 8 and 5 yr old to raise. So I did not want to cause problems in the family at this point. My children tell me now that I was always so angry. Well when I found out one of my daughters had been molested by a so called respected elder several years ago I went to the elders. They believed her and one other sister that also complained and said they would do nothing since some time had elapsed. Well now you can imagine how angry I was.Yes this religion has affected me in an adverse manner. If I had not been in it I would have been a much less angry man and father. My children would have been treated with more kindness and loving. When you have several children and a religion that demands many hours of your time to please them one can not be the father he might have been. I truly do carry a load of grief and guilt over the fact that I did not give my children what I could have and what they most surely deserved. A better father!
the watchtower publishing corporation loves the df rule because it isolates jws from hearing critical information of their business cult, a cult that is disguised as a religion.
in the excellent thread yesterday about the 'hardline' on dfing ... this point was made in the aug. 2002 km:5. indeed, it is just as page 31 of the same issue of the watchtower states: "the fact is that when a christian gives himself over to sin and has to be disfellowshiped, he forfeits much: his approved standing with god; ... sweet fellowship with the brothers, including much of the association he had with christian relatives.".
the watchtower presumption is that a shunned former jw has always given themselves over to sin, and somehow deserve total shunning.
Go to a recent thread on" HARDLINE ON DISFELLOWSHIPPED ONES"
You will find that da'd ones and df'd ones are to be treated the same. And the rather subliminal messages leading one to no longer respect a family member. Such as the da'd father and his rights to speak to his children or wife on religeous matters and the encouraged disrespect of this parent.
Of course all of this is recomended in the most loving manner.
i am hoping some of the norwegian people on this forum can help me out on this.. my father was born in moss norway in 1879. i would like to get some genealogy on my ancestors and maybe contact some cousins etc.. i have my grandfathers and my grandmothers name and not much else.
for whatever reason there was little or no comunication between my father and his relatives in norway.
although there seemed to be no rifts between them.. if you know of some internet sites in norway where i could scan birth records and such i would appreciate your help in geting the addresses.
Hey thanks Atreyu.
I will give that site my attention.
If I need more help how would you like me to contact you. Through this post or using e mail?
I know that I must have some cousins in Norway but for some reason unknown to me there was no comunication by my father to his relatives in Norway. He came here to USA when he was 13 yr old, with his mother and two sisters. His dad died fighting a fire in Moss at the ship docks on the water front when my dad was 9 yr old. Sometime later around 1923 his mother and two sisters returned to Norway. I wish I could speak Norwegian but my dad did not use the language and not did see a reason to teach it to me. I was born late in his life. He was 56 years old and that probably had something to do with it. He was always proud of being from Norwegian heritage and instilled that same feeling in me. One of these days I may take a trip to Norway. I would sure enjoy it.
Thanks again and best wishes.
looks like someone on this forum hates this word hope.
hope is a great thing to have for all christain.. it is one of the best things a true christain can have.. the bible gives us alot of hope.. lets use it in our everyday lives.
we have bible understanding threw research do we not?
HOPE-FAITH-TRUST ME- AND I AM A CHRISTIAN! loudly proclaimed, always clicks the "lets be cautious here" switch. It is my experience with jw's and others that this can be their beginning attempt to put something over on me.Especially the I am a christian thing anounced loudly the first time you meet someone usually means they won't behave like one.
HOPE for the best and prepare for the worst is good advice. Of course we all have hope.
You must have faith in wbts as Gods sole source of the truth. Several failed prophecies and their hateful policies and I experienced the worst.
Trust us we are christians, In fact christ and the holy spirit works through us and only us. I experienced very unchristian not christ like actions from the wbts.
I really hope I don't waste my time replying to any more of your posts.
i just wrote a letter to my mother and father today.
i cried through a lot of it.
i basically told them how unfair i found their treatment of my to be and their treatment of my husband.
Your post really tears at my heart. This stupid shunning policy of the wbts is destroying families. If you simply inform them that THEIR actions of not comunicating and visiting you will mean they will miss out on seeing your children. That you are not going to not let them. That you prefer that they see your family as it grows. This leaves the problem with them. Since people are constantly changing and there is a lot now going on to discredit the wbts I would suggest you display a continuing interest in having close ties with your parents for the sake of the children.
My heart goes out to you. I and others have lived through these things and they do hurt and hurt badly. But we can not change others and do not want to adopt the jw attitude in return. Live your life. Enjoy your marriage and your family as children arrive. Associate with any family members that treat you well. Your parents will see this and maybe realize that THEY not you are missing out on a part of life that could be very enjoyable.
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i hated all the elders who thought they had to tell someone what had to be done and they themselves weren't doing it.
what about you?
I hated having to deal with the inevitable one or two ignorant arrogant ones that lorded it over anyone else who had a thoughtful caring approach to issues. They always had this "we can get them this way" attitude and approach to the judicial hearings. Never the "loving guidance" always spouted by the wbts publications.
would someone who was a jw all his life (24 years) know he's not suppose to be giving/receiving oral sex?
is it possible he might not have heard about this rule?
does it not apply if the person is disfellowshipped?
You guys are all sick and corrupted!
Well?? Don't stop here, tell me more!.
