oops.... should start at the beginning of a story shouldn't i!
i've been lower than a serpent's belly as of late.
finances just got a whole lot worse; argued 5 times with monopolistic telephone company who took my payment (money from 'hubby') yet didn't re-connect me; went searching for my resume on hubby's computer and found child porn instead.
Hi Mimilly;
Been out of town for a few days, so missed the rest of the posts here. Really glad to see you are doing well. Keep up the good work and hang on to your sense of humor.
Sorry if my post was a bit too strong for your likes. But you really scared me.
Best wishes for you and yours.
Outoftheorg
oops.... should start at the beginning of a story shouldn't i!
i've been lower than a serpent's belly as of late.
finances just got a whole lot worse; argued 5 times with monopolistic telephone company who took my payment (money from 'hubby') yet didn't re-connect me; went searching for my resume on hubby's computer and found child porn instead.
Hey Mimilly;
You don't owe me or anybody an apology. Times like that are hard to handle. Like I said I been there and done that.
If it hadn't of been for a psychiatrist that laid it on the line for me I might not have been here today.I think it is good to be kind and caring and helpful we all need that. I also believe that we also need someone to tell us like it is, seriously and lay it on the line to get through to us in times of trouble.
I only care about your recovery I don't worry about how people might feel about me. Keep the humor it is a good way to cope with the down times. I am glad you see the serious side of all this.
Best wishes for you and your family girl.
oops.... should start at the beginning of a story shouldn't i!
i've been lower than a serpent's belly as of late.
finances just got a whole lot worse; argued 5 times with monopolistic telephone company who took my payment (money from 'hubby') yet didn't re-connect me; went searching for my resume on hubby's computer and found child porn instead.
Hey Mimilly;
Quite a day you had! You know this depression - suicide thing is deep doo doo don't you? Not something to be taken lightly. You owe this guardian a big hug and lots of thanks. It would be a big loss to us and the world to lose you. View this with some concern and a serious approach now. If the medication seems ok, good if not tell the doc about it. If the shrink doesn't fit your needs, find another. If the costs "money" are too much for you, get assistance from the state/province. See this through to health and happiness. If your life needs some changes change it.
This will not be an easy thing to live through, but it is done by thousands every day and they succeed. So can you.
Been there done that, it worked out fine for me. It can work out fine for you also. You got ta do the work though.
Hang in there Girl.
you may have heard someone say "if jehovah's witnesses don't have the truth, then there isn't any truth".
in fact, some of you may have at one time been so convinced that you said that very statement yourselves.. now you sing a different tune.. the following question is directed towards those who have left the organization, yet still agree with their stand on major doctrines such as (no) trinity, (no) hellfire, and who at one time clearly saw (and maybe still do) the paganism mixed into the popular holidays...... do you believe that "there isn't any truth" now, or did you turn to somewhere else for spirtuality?.
and if you have turned somewhere else, have you had to accept doctrines that you don't believe in at all, just so you could have somewhere to go (i.e.
Hi no body of interest. Your post was of no interest to me.
Outoftheorg
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?article_id=28755
posted: august 28, 2002.
1:00 a.m. eastern.
well I have a little different take on all this.
It is my belief that all of the regimes in that part of the world-Saudies-Egypt- and on and on are all very corrupt. Their populations are living in squalor. This makes the population ripe for indroctrination by the rabid extremist versions of Islam. The ruling parties or in the case of Saudi and others ruling families, have a very tenuous hold on their rulership and fear an uprising of their people. An uprising I think they deserve. This uprising could then spread throughout that part of the world.
Imagine for a moment the chaos that would cause. Especially to the parts of the world that depends on them for their oil. Add to that the possibility of these extreme islam leaders taking over and all of these countries being ruled like Iran is now. Or worse.
Add to that the existing hatred of arabs for jews and jews for arabs and both sides ready for some kind of war. Any kind.
I think this is the reasons that prompt the US to tolerate the vascilations of the Saudies and others.
Only my opinion- Outoftheorg
in an earlier topic, blondie made reference to heated discussions in congregations over kh builds.
this raises a question.
my father was and elder who was selected as the building coordinator for the new kh in our local area about 2-3 years ago.
Yes Writerpen he got stiffed.
Scumrat said it all. I learned early on that it was not a good idea to do business with any other jw. That it was even more risky to do business with the wbts. They have this arrogant belief in their self importance and expect all others to cater to them in every way. Especially when there is money or land or something of value involved. To this day I in my mind can see the superior grin on their faces as they explained how I had to do something for free or give something free to the organization.
What really pisses me off, is I learned that early on and stayed on for several more years. Go figure.
i've been looking for something like this for the last 7 years.
i am not a jw or an ex-jw but my wife is and so is her father and her sister.
brief history.
Welcome Scooter;
Banging your head on a wall? Sounds familiar.
what do you all do with your free time now guys..like hobbies and what not..like you pioneers there is 75 hrs you have to play around with if you know what i mean not to mention meetings and bible studying etc.
please do share !!!
(((((hugs)))) queenie
My wife tells me that all I do is read and post on this damned forum.
Not really, although she may say that at any time now.
I have been away from the borg for @ 10 years now. Also I am retired. So I mostly do what ever the hell I feel like doing on a given day. I even after ten years of freedom still marvel at how good it feels to be free of the wbts. It never fails to put a grin on my face.
It was a little troubling at first, trying to fill my day with anything but the troof. I was employed then and that used up the days. Lost a good part of my family so I sought out new friends and tried things that had been banned in the troof. Never stuck my neck out too far. It was a little hard to shake the jw thinking about society at large and become comfortable with people and trusting.
For any of you who are just now starting that journey, be assured that you will adapt and have a much better life than in the past. You will no longer be judged on the basis of your percieved success in the religion only. You will find people in general are more caring-open minded-honest-less critical-less hateful-less demanding than you are used to in the jw world.
After a while as your brain and mental processes are free of the cult influence you will see things and understand things in a much clearer way. Also you will look back after a few years and ask yourself, why did I ever tolerate all that nonsense and idiotic demands? I often ask myself, what the hell was wrong with me? To put up with that gross dysfunctional religion.
Well I've rambled along enough.
Outoftheorg
i was raised with a bookbag in my hand.
every saturday and sunday our family was out in service.i vacation, temporary and auxillary and regular pioneered.
i never enjoyed it but did it because i was supposed to do it.
Never liked it. Hated to go to some ones door and preach at them. Felt like a fool and had a degree of shame about the whole thing. Still, I did it for about 40 years. What the hell was the matter with me?
for decades i heard people say "if i was an elder,i would change this or i wouldn't allow that.brothers and sisters alike would always try to get the ear of an elder so as to enact a particular cause.everybody has their own pet peeves in a congregation.
knowing what you know now, if as an elder you could make a major change in the congregation or organization, what difference would you make?.....this is hypothetical so it can be answered by male or female.
If I was an elder. Well um I would quit. Again. Did it once would do it again.
Outoftheorg
