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since i'm relatively healthy, don't smoke, hardly drink (2 beers a day), and if i base myself on my grandparents and parents age, i think that i should live up to anywhere between 85 and 95. which means i should have another 40 to 50 years of posting here.
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Both of my parents lived to be 76 yrs.
This was with the medical knowledge of the late 50's and early 60's.
My siblings lived to their mid 80's.
I turn 70 next month and my doctor says I am healthy at my last yearly check.
So far everything still works "wink wink".
So I expect to live to my late 80's. Maybe 90.
This gives me maybe another 20 yrs. to to reveal to those who listen, the "truth" about the wbts.
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we just got back from spending two weeks in denver, co. call us crazy (yeah i dont know what the hell we were thinking) but we decided to drive.
from seattle to denver and back is over 3,000 miles.
we had both kids and a crap load of stuff.
Well I went to the assy. in New York in, I think it was 1953.
From San Diego Calif. to New York and back. Around 6000 miles for a stupid convention.
I was 17 and stupid I guess.
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i was talking to someone at my new job - she has known me for about 3 months and had something like 2 five minute conversations with me about the jws.. she said "you do come across as really bitter about it".. (note she is definately not a jw).. it was a real eye opener, because although i try and educate people about the truth of jws, i didn't think i was "bitter".. what about you?
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G G G For someone in your position and at this time in your exit, most of us could use the help from a few people who have also gone through the same situations.
That is why this forum is so helpful.
If there are any ex jw's in your area or a good friend that you could visit and discuss things, it would help.
Even better would be to find a counselor or psychologist that you could afford. I know from first hand experience, how difficult it is to deal with all these feelings alone and how much better I felt after the first visit to a counselor.
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you should see this place at quitting time!
i seen this on a sign!
and i laughed my ass off!.
Please do not throw your cigarette buts on the floor.
It hurts the patrons knees as they leave to go home.
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you should see this place at quitting time!
i seen this on a sign!
and i laughed my ass off!.
The customer is always right!!
Until I decide you are no longer a customer.
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i am waiting for any jehovah's witness to offer support in scripture of these four articles of faith: .
(1) the faithful and discreet slave is a class of people, .
(2) that the holy spirit directs organizations in addition to individuals, .
Thanks for your prompt and insightful reply, Oldsoul
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i am waiting for any jehovah's witness to offer support in scripture of these four articles of faith: .
(1) the faithful and discreet slave is a class of people, .
(2) that the holy spirit directs organizations in addition to individuals, .
I know that you are asking others "do THEY have scriptures to substantiate these teachings of the wbts".
To me it is obvious that you and Shadow for example, have done some deep studies of the bible or you would not have this kind of knowledge.
I was saying how difficult it was for me to do the same, without being so bored I would just get angry and quit the whole effort, when I found inconsistencies in the bible on same or similar subjects.
Because of this I never even tried to do any deep study of the bible.
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i am waiting for any jehovah's witness to offer support in scripture of these four articles of faith: .
(1) the faithful and discreet slave is a class of people, .
(2) that the holy spirit directs organizations in addition to individuals, .
Ya know, it is just this sort of search and discussion and use of the bible to support or tear down the teachings of wbts and or other religions.
That got to the point that they just bored the hell out of me.
The teachings of the wbts, use certain verses in the bible to back up and prove an issue.
If I read the bible without their publications, I could not make any sense of the wbts teachings and I also could not make any sense out of the bible by itself either. At least for the most part.
I could not force myself to do this kind of deep study and investigation of the scriptures. When I began to see controversies within the bible on the same or similar subjects I felt like throwing the bible on the floor and stomping on it.
I appreciate what you are doing,but I don't understand why you would want to.
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defd,.
on page 146 of what does the bible really teach?, the opening sentence of paragraph 6 purports to represent one of the six criteria for determining the true religion.
it reads: "god's servants base their teachings on the bible.".
Lets take it easy on Dfed. Remember your troubles when you were not comfortable with the wbts yet you were still hoping for it to be the real source of God??
If he is like most of us were, we never had a real depth of first hand knowledge about the bible.
We could not pull up scriptures to defend the wbts, so we would respond to a challenge with confusion and anger and guilt at not having that ability.
To be too hard on him would be like knowing a guy who was depressed and sick, yet won't see the doctor, So WE BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF HIM. That won't heal a thing.
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disclaimer.
first of all......let me start off by saying this.
i am not intending in any way to start any arguments with this topic.
It is that 17% of pit bulls that are not even tempered, that are the problem. Then you have a very efficient killer on your hands. With the size and strength to do massive damage. With an attitude similar to a grizzly bear if it decides to attack.
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