""Rational"" beliefs only.
Relief and peace.
Acceptance.
Indifference. The goal.
Yeah Gary that about says it all.
I think, not sure, that I may be between Acceptence and Indifference.
Thanks for your help.
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""Rational"" beliefs only.
Relief and peace.
Acceptance.
Indifference. The goal.
Yeah Gary that about says it all.
I think, not sure, that I may be between Acceptence and Indifference.
Thanks for your help.
Outoftheorg
the insert is called "how do i view blood fractions and medical procedures involving my own blood?
" i will attempt to transcribe the more salient points for everyone here.. paragraph 1 (verbatim): the bible commands christians to "abstain ... from blood.
" (acts 15:20) thus, jehovah's witnesses do not accept transfusions of whole blood or the four primary components of blood-namely, red blood cells, white blood cells, platelets, and plasma.
What I see on their list regarding the blood issue is.
It is plainly displayed that THE BIBLE CONDEMNS BLOOD.
Then a long list of "conscious decisions" to confuse the jw.
That also are usable in a COURT OF LAW to protect the
WBTS and to hell with the jw believer.
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i just started watching "confedentail" on a & e. it just mentioned a connection to the jw's and showed the kh.
it's about a russian ballet dancer who murdered his wife.
either her, or her mom was a jw.
If this is the one I am thinking of, There was a previous post about this on this forum.
If This took place in Boise Idaho, I knew the jw that was killed and her daughter.
They lived in Nampa Idaho and the daughter was a friend of my daughters and she died
early in life from natural causes.
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my parents were baptized when i was three years old.
so, you could say that i was "born and raised" as a jw.
i was baptized at age 11. i was a regular auxilary pioneer from age 14 to 15. my parents became inactive at about age 14. it was very hard trying to be a "good young sister" especially after being told you're a burden to the pioneers that have to always provide rides in service and to/from the meetings.
Hi LADY BUG!
I like that name you have chosen. It's cute.
I was born into a jw family. At least my mother and siblings were. Not my father, even though he did not speak against what he thought was a religion, he felt he did not need it.
I learned on my own later, that he was correct. He did not need it. He was a much better man than any Jw man I have ever known. I thought that he was unique and not often found in the "worldly men".
As I grew up, I found that not only my father but most worldly men were far better men than most jw's.
He learned the hard way when a very young man that strip clubs or flashing ones naked rear end is not an acceptable action.
Your hubby was not allowed the nonsense actions and thoughts when he was a young and typically ignorant young man. In my opinion most of us that have not been allowed to act like idiots when we are teenagers and are made to behave like learned men at that time, will look back at that time and want to live through it now. All the time not knowing why but just having the emotional urges tormenting them.
Use your psychological training and knowledge and tell me what you think.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060905/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_britain_telepathy
has anyone ever experienced this?
i have, as well as with emails and especially text messages.. do you think there's any chance this could be real-that there is a valid, unspoken connection between people who reach out to each other?
This is a bit off topic, but you may find it interesting.
I have a female neighbor that is the most obnoxious angry know it all, that I have ever encountered. She is in her 80's and her only child, a woman around 40 yrs old, has a phd in criminal psychology.
She literally hates her mother. Moved to Hawaii, as far as she could get away from her mother.
About two years ago she comes back to visit old high school friends etc. She is not too attractive but is intelligent and a calm person. An old friend of mine brought her to introduce us.
She came to our house and stayed about an hour. My wife and I visited and talked about what ever.
I don't find her very attractive at all.
As she leaves the house she takes a few steps and then turns and looks me in the eye and smiles.
I suddenly had this strong urge to hug her and felt the start of an erection. I never have experienced any thing like that before.
I think of this often and wonder if there is a possible connection between our minds and the minds of others, that we don't know of.
I know I will be attacked by lots of jokes and sarcasm but try to take it easy on me.
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i've come a long way these three years.
many of the people who posted when i was first here have left.
the board has changed so much.
Good for you FHN. I found this board somewhere close to your entry. For me you have always been here.
Always liked your posts. Stick around and keep us grouches in line, ok?
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i just finished talking to my uncle for the first tim in quite a while.
he's a long time elder and in charge of setting up all of the local circuit assys.
and partially in charge of da., so he knows a lot of bro's.
Thanks to Shooting Star for the UN / WBTS open letter to the world.
I copied it off and unlike my previous attempts I got a really good acceptable copy.
I plan to print out about 25 and mail them to the jw's that I can find an address for.
Especially the elders. I don't think this has ever been done in the southern Idaho area.
Lets see what the responses are. Then I will mail some more.
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who has a dirty little secret serious or not so serious?
my dirty secrets:.
beginning from age 17 i stole a total of 250 luxury cars from all parts of britain and sold them for five million pounds total (about $9 000 000) .
None of the three above.
That leaves you as a liar.
Your secret is out.
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i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).
and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.
people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!
Hi ZARCO.
I read all of your posts and those of others on this subject. I must say that I admire you and the few other elders who really do want to help the jw's in their congregation.
My term as an elder was short. It took little time to realize that I could not behave and take actions against other jw's with the enjoyment I saw in other elders. While you are one of a small percent of elders that actually have love for their fellow man, most of them that I knew did not.
I sincerely hope that you and the other elders that were on this forum for the first time, will continue to at least read this forum and gain the knowledge that is available here.
I also advise that you will be carrying a very heavy load if you feel responsible for the well being of the rank and file publisher and their problems and needs.
Especially as you have to deal with leaders that do not share your personality and caring for others,
Add that to the strain of dealing with family members that do not share your feelings and the frustration, this is going to cause a heavy load on your mental abilities (cognitive dissonance).
Within the family move slowly, as it will take time for them to adopt to a change in your beliefs. It would be a shame to see as good a man as you having to suffer from doing the right thing. Helping his fellow man.
Be cautious and take your time, especially with family.
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i`d like to ask all ex elders and current elders (lot`s of new ones on the forum today), if they feel any different after they were appointed?
like a special portion of `j`s spirit`, or did they feel the same?
Come to think of it Amazing, maybe there is some spirit direction. After that meeting where I described this elder, about two or three months later, he had a heart attack and died. I recall having some fleeting thoughts along that line.
Well I guess I'm kinda evil ok?
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