Well I was going to say something cute about silence is golden and but I well maybe not.
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Women should be silent in the congregation?
by writerpen inokay, since i've been attending a new church, i've had the opportunity to sit on three committees.
i've gone hog wild and volunteered for everything trying to make up for all the years that i couldn't do anything as a female in the kh.
anyway, last night i stirred the shit in one of the meetings by voicing my opinion on how something in the church is run.
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Please help keep this site up
by Dogpatch ini am posting this for my friend jan groenveld in australia.
many of you know jan, some love her and some don't.
but she is a wonderful personal friend of mine and i want to see her web pages go on, they are helpful not just on the jw stuff, but on other cults.
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Sent her a donation I sure hope others do also and I hope it helps her.
When I clicked on the submit button my computer locked up. Ended up posting twice by accident.
Oh well.
Edited by - outoftheorg on 31 July 2002 19:15:47
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Please help keep this site up
by Dogpatch ini am posting this for my friend jan groenveld in australia.
many of you know jan, some love her and some don't.
but she is a wonderful personal friend of mine and i want to see her web pages go on, they are helpful not just on the jw stuff, but on other cults.
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Hi Dogpatch, thanks for the information. I sent a donation and I hope others here do also.
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Car Wars
by Crystal intoday i had my jeep towed into the shop..i dreaded the ride in with the driver (im extremly shy).
but we ended up haveing a great conversation about what vehicle i should buy next.. what a perfect person to ask cuz of his job.
he said "dont get another jeep they roll too easy and they catch on fire.".
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Since I have more faith in foreign autos such as toyota-bmw-volvo I am really surprised with my 1991 oldsmobile cutlass supreme. It has 187000 miles on it and I have only replaced the brake shoes and pads, the front and rear struts and spark plugs and the alternator.
I am amazed to get this kind of life from an american auto that I didn't have much faith in.
Since I do all my own repairs this hasn't cost me much at all. I have never had this kind of mileage out of an american automobile with so few repairs.
I also keep the maintainance up to date. Such as regular oil/filter change etc.
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How Pure Are You?
by MrMoe inomg i am like super wicked....
http://test.thespark.com/puritytest/.
you are 29% pure!
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OH MY I AM ONLY 61% PURE!
THAT IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE 49% ARE MORE PURE THAN ME
AND 49% ARE LESS PURE THAN ME AND 2% ARE JUST LIKE ME. yOU POOR SOULS.
OH MAN I THOUGHT I WOULD BE AT LEAST 75% OR 80%.
HEY I TOLD THE AWFUL TRUTH DID YOU GUYS HIGHER THAN ME LIE??
COME ON FESS UP.
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And Here's To You, MRS. ANDERSON...
by AMNESIAN in"...jesus loves you more than you will know...whoa, whoa, whoa..."
mrs. barbara anderson, that is.. .
while i wholeheartedly join in with the backslapping and thundering applause being accorded the relentless and selfless efforts of bill bowen and his silentlambs lobby and other men of integrity and conscience---some still, some no longer, associated with the "christian" congregation of jehovah's witnesses--- in exposing the vileness and hypocrisy of certain of the wts's policies, i am moved to hoist a separate and personal tribute to a woman who has turned out to have more integrity and character and courage and conviction than most people with whom i've ever been acquainted and, more on point, than virtually any of the generally good and decent jws i ever knew in my 30 year association---male or female, regardless his "rank" or his/her jw "pedigree.".
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Yes HERE'S TO BOTH MRS. ANDERSON AND MR ANDERSON.
You are to be congratulated for a job well done. We hope that most if not all of your relatives see understand and appreciate what you went through to stay with your conscience and do what you knew was right.
I and all others want a time of contented restful satisfying life for you and yours.
After this ordeal you deserve and certainly earned it.
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Bin Laden-king Philip and ???
by outoftheorg ini give you a few paragraphs from a comentary by ralph peters contributed to american heritage magazine.
do you see similarities with a group of others or an orgnization?.
his faith was gruesome and dark, for his god was a terrifying being, and the only lesson he drew from religion was fear.his respect for his god was all the deeper and more profound since he lacked respect for every other creature.
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I give you a few paragraphs from a comentary by Ralph Peters contributed to American Heritage magazine. The similarities between king Philip the 2nd of Spain and Bin Laden. Do you see similarities with a group of others or an orgnization?
His faith was gruesome and dark, for his god was a terrifying being, and the only lesson he drew from religion was fear.His respect for his god was all the deeper and more profound since he lacked respect for every other creature. The common goal of despotism and religion for religion's sake is conformity. He could imagine no higher achievement than regimented faith. Each word above applies perfectly to Osama Bin Laden but those lines were written 200 hundred years ago about Philip the 2nd of Spain after a literal reign of terror. The only salient between Philip and Osama is that the former enjoyed, if he enjoyed anything, official power and formal authority. But their bitter souls are twins. For in their deficiencies and deformities we see not only the enduring foes of liberty, of conscience and warm faith, but a reflection of the enemy that lurks within us all. Such men require a vengeful god and the belief that few are chosen for salvation, the confiction that this world is hopelessly sin wracked and that the lives of others may be sacrificed in atonement. Each figure is ultimately a blasphemer against his own religion, having appointed himself gods instrument on earth, assuming the license to kill those who do not share his vision, to purge, to punish, to sanctify. Extreme and violent fundamentalism is the dark familiar of each of the great monothiestic religions. The comfort of faith is a tenuous thing so the fearful among us crave certainty. The weak fortify themselves with a faith of stone, impenetrable to reason, evidence, or mercy. Fanatics reap their most abundant harvest of followers in the deserts of fear. Philip insisted upon the imposition of past virtues-much exagerated- on a struggling present, as Osama does today. This is the mark of deeply frightened men. One of the most enduring arguments down through time is over whether the divine force is essentialy benevolent or disciplinarian. In their craving for certainty, the weak want rules. But only if they are universal-not just aplicable to all but enforced upon all. The rest of the world wants more of what we have-wealth and power but traditionalists refuse to pay the cultural price to earn it. If for example your family's ultimate wealth is the virtue of its women, if the woman is owned by the man placed above her by devine sanction the freedom of american life where women freely converse with men in public, inspires tremendous rage. It threatens to rob the male of his last shreds of power.
This is only a snippet of the whole article but covers the parts I found so interesting.
Tell me does this ring a bell with any of you.
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Oil Changing Instructions for Women and Men
by WildTurkey inoil changing instructions for women: .
1. pull up to jiffy lube when the mileage reaches 3,000 since the last oil change.. 2. drink a cup of coffee.. 3.
15 minutes later, write a check and leave with a properly maintained vehicle.. .
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180 Degrees not 360
sorry just had to correct you!
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Bad Day
by Sirona ini'm posting here because i can't find any other forum to post to about this....plus you all know me and you are a great group of people.. i'm having a really bad day today.
all of a sudden it seems to have "hit" me that i had cancer.
i've been all clear for about 3 months, but all the while i've been terrified of it returning.
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Hello Sirona.
Sorry to hear you are having a bad day. Ask your local hospital if there are support groups in your area. Usually here in the US this is so. If you can find one that is monitored by a counselor it should be of help to you. Some times the more personal aspects of being with people in the same situation you are in helps a lot.
If you put off the tooth extraction will it be worse when you finally do have it pulled?
Having an illness to deal with sure is trying. Feel free to use this post to your advantage in venting and if you have questions let us know. We may not have the answers but with the many seemingly educated persons on this post It seems possible that someone would have the answer.
Keeping busy with something I like to do helps me with the emotional loads and turmoil. But I do not have any physical problems to deal with like you do.
Hang in there and handle each day one at a time. Wish you the best and will be thinking about you.
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What is your definition of........
by SpiceItUp in......beauty?.
i know the whole sentiment of beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
even rod sterling had his say on the matter (boy i loved that episode).. what is beautiful in your opinion?
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A physicaly good looking woman has beauty in my eyes. But the real beauty that makes me feel that warm loving feeling Is when she looks into my eyes with love-acceptance and a smile that indicates she is enjoying being with me. My God that is beautiful beyond description.