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  Any Dubs in your Hall that were puportedly "Demonized"?

  by Sailor Ripley in

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  we had a whole family that moved into our congo when i was about 10. they had kids from 6 to 16-years-old.

  there was always talk of their beds spinning and shoes floating, et cetera.

  they lived in a literal shack so i didn't want to go there to spend the night, but i always wanted to go and "check it out" to see some fireworks.

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  I guess that most of you know that my wife just died from cancer. I have to let you know this so that I don't have to defend myself for letting a PREACHER IN MY HOUSE.

  He is part of the Hospice operations and tries to help those who face death. My wife was not a church goer but she did have strong religious beliefs and he could be of some emotional help to her.

  Anyway, He Stopped By a few days ago. He asked me why I didn't show much interest in his attempts to be of use to my wife and I during this difficult time. I tell him that one reason was that I didn't like his comment about " well keep smiling " to me as he left the very first time he came. Actually it pissed me off.

  I tell him that I don't see the need for Organized religions as my wife had told him. This led to a discussion about the jw's and then about his beliefs.

  The first things he brought up were DEAMONS as he said he had seen them at work in some visits he made. Maybe he was talking about me???

  Then it went to how psychologists tend to damage ones religious beliefs, which caused me to point out that some religions are so damaging to ones mental health that they need a psychologist.

  It amazed me that he sounded like some elders that I have known. All wound up in the fear of demons and psychologists.

  I didn't think to ask him if he had checked his house lately for possibly demonized furniture or such.

  I wonder if he will come again. Should I be a little easier on him?
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  My DF'd brother will never go back!

  by AuldSoul in

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  some years ago my brother was disfellowshipped.

  not for apostasy, but for more mundane reasons.

  he has not had the internet, he has not studied the bible much since being disfellowshipped, he has been feeling guilty and considering returning for the last six months.. i had no way of contacting him, having lost touch in the midst of his many moves.

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  Good for you Auldsoul.

  I think I know how you feel.

  My oldest daughter has been out for some time.

  A couple of weeks ago she tells me that my son, her step brother tells her that

  he doubts he will ever go back to the cult.

  This is my son with the very high IQ and still he fell for it.

  I would send him copies of things like the UN affair and other jw nonsense I got off this forum and he would argue with me about it.

  But he did listen and now he is seeing the hypocrisy of it all. It feels so good. One more to go and I got them all out. His sister with the 4.0 average in studies is the next. I am gonna let him do this one.

  Oh man do I love this place!!!

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  Any Dubs in your Hall that were puportedly "Demonized"?

  by Sailor Ripley in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we had a whole family that moved into our congo when i was about 10. they had kids from 6 to 16-years-old.

  there was always talk of their beds spinning and shoes floating, et cetera.

  they lived in a literal shack so i didn't want to go there to spend the night, but i always wanted to go and "check it out" to see some fireworks.

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  Oh yeah.

  I knew this guy and his wife. He was late 30's or early 40's she was in her 40's. They were a little different but were not so dogmatic about things as most jw's, so we were friends.

  He was sure that he was being attacked by demons at night and was asking the elders for help. They questioned him to no end and went through his house for something that would attract demons.

  This went on for some time and they had prayer sessions and interrogated him over and over. Surely he must have been doing some thing wicked. Nothing seemed to work.

  Finally found that he had bought a USED tire for his car from a salvage yard. I don't recall what they did with the tire but they had him get rid of it.

  It worked, either that or he got tired of it all and lied to them. Several years later I read an article about sleep paralysis. and it fit every part of his description of what was happening to him.

  By that time I was out of the borg and moved away. I often wonder what happened to him and his demon attacks.

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  JW litter-ature and Catholic hospitals

  by bebu in

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  i noticed that recently that people mentioned finding wts literature in their local hospitals.

  i don't know about the standard public hospital, catholic hospitals will be more interested in understanding that the literature is anti-catholic.. i have brought wt litter-ature to the attention of ladies manning the info desk at our local catholic hospital, and explained to them that the jws are extremely anti-catholic.

  and their being a private catholic hospital, they had no reason to permit that.

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  Hi Bebu, I have to tell ya this one.

  After I met my wife and moved to this small town, I told her about the jw's and their wbts leaders. Since she managed the Home Health dept. she had access to the front offices.

  She promptly told a few of the office personnel what she learned. The local jw's were always leaving copies of the wt and a waky among the common magazines.

  Now they are promptly removed and put in the trash. I think the jw's think that people are interested and take these magazines home. As the amount they leave, keeps increasing.

  No matter how many they leave, they all go quickly into the trash.

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  The Funeral

  by purplesofa in

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  as you all know my brother was buried yesterday.

  he was 33......... he did this ..........17 years after his father commited suicide.

  the funeral took place at the funeral home.......a witness elder did the funeral.....my brother is not a witness, but my mother is.

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  I am so sorry Purple about your brother. I can tell by your posts that you are devastated and it makes me want to say something that would help you.

  But I am at a loss for the right words. As you know, my wife died and it is really hard on me.

  But your having a young man "your brother" die in this way. has to be several times more difficult than what I am going through.

  I wish I wish I wish I had some thing helpful to say. If it is any help, I am sitting here looking at the screen and crying for you and your brother .

  Why the fuck does life have to be so damned difficult??

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  Life sucks, then you die, causing life to suck for others.

  by serendipity in

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  a male relative died last week after a short illness.

  i don't know what will appear in his obituary but i doubt it will capture his personality and what the loss means.

  his adult children will miss the comforting, steadfast presence of their father.

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  Thanks to you all for your replies to my post. I have gone through some very difficult times in my life and I have to say that this loss of Donna is by far more disturbing in many other areas of life than anything I have lived through.

  I didn't lose my wife and now find myself single. I lost my best friend, my companion, my lover, all the trips we planned after she retired, my counselor, my artistic friend, my source of friendship and love and caring and humor and good sense and a thousand little things we seldom see until we lose them.

  Up to the very last she still was concerned about MY well being and wanting to do and buy things for me.

  We only had 8 y'rs together but they were the best 8 y'rs of my life.

  Thanks again to you all.

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  Life sucks, then you die, causing life to suck for others.

  by serendipity in

  1. jw
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  a male relative died last week after a short illness.

  i don't know what will appear in his obituary but i doubt it will capture his personality and what the loss means.

  his adult children will miss the comforting, steadfast presence of their father.

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  You sure got that right, Serendipity.

  I lost my wife July the 11th.

  Been sort of wandering around "mentally" and lots of tears.

  If your grief is strong enough to cause you to cry, don't stuff it, let it out.

  Got that from the counselor I am seeing. I am told that this too will pass.

  I hope they are correct.

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  A Testimony of Filth?

  by Perry in

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  at age 23 i became a witness after being raised in it from infancy.

  that made me a 4th genreation witness.

  the first hall i went to was the airport congregation in houston.

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  Saki It is not a relative few. It is at about the same level of society in general.

  The reason that it is so disturbing, is that the wbts loudly claims to be the happiest, most moral, and only organization directed by Jehovah, through the holy spirit.

  The wbts slams all the other religions for activities of this sort, as being controled by satan.

  It is the hypocrisy of it all that is so disgusting.

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  Fair minded person with a fair point of view

  by keo15929 in

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  i have been one of jehovah's witnesses for about 9 years before i became inactive.

  i just had some comments i'd like to make.. i think the reason why i'm inactive now is because i've come to a point in my life where i feel obligated to admit that i just don't know.

  at one time i was as fiery and zealous of a witness as anyone could be but i had this nagging feeling that i really didn't know what i was talking about when i was witnessing to people.

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  Hi KEO its me again.

  Your comment that you think the wbts should be forgiven since they believed they had 100% belief that they were Gods people.

  Actually they claim that they are the only group on earth through which God speaks.

  Reminds me of the caution that if you talk to God, it is called praying.

  If God talks to you, it is schizophrenia.

  Ha! maybe that says it all.

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  I came home to find my wife crying over THAT article.

  by jambon1 in

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  i came home today to find my wife crying whilst reading the 'when a loved one leaves jehovah' article.

  its been a good few months now and i can appreciate how she feels.

  but it just irritates me how my disagreeing with this religion has such a catastrophic effect on our everyday lives.

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  One thing that always passes through my mind when I read some "declaration" from the wbts is this.

  This article has to originate some where. The Gov Bdy? The writing dept.?

  Then it flows down to the printing dept.

  Through this process aren't there some that see the idiocy of this? Are they all that stupid? Or are they as deceived as the rank and file?

  Or are they a totally hate filled group of demented Psychopaths hand picked by the older group of Psychopaths?

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