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  Find Serendipity and Lola a man...or two

  by lola28 in

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  yes that's right serendipity and myslef are both on the market, any takers?.

  i don't know what serendipity likes but umm, i'm going to take a guess, applicants must be:.

  *oooo and above all he must have all his teeth, elders and ms need not apply.

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  So Serendipity you are still available.

  I lost tract of this thread and forgot about you girls looking for a friend/mate?

  Me too "sorta" I did meet a nice lady where I live. She is a little older than me. I can hardly believe that.

  We both own our homes although I also have another house and some land I want to sell.

  Her house is probably three times the worth of mine and in a beautiful rural area. About 25 miles from the nearest town. But when I get rain, at her elevation she gets snow in the mountains. I don't like snow anymore.

  She is what one calls wealthy and that kinda disturbs me. Not sure I would fit her picture.

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  I guess I will just wait and see where it goes.
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  A Painless Relationship - Possible?

  by compound complex in

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  dear newest best friends,.

  we spend a lot of time here - learning and helping one another out - a worldwide "brother- and sisterhood.

  " quite different from what we left behind.

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  There are no genuine lasting ties between one jw and the other jw's,

  The lack of genuine ties even exist within the family.

  Family members are more than willing to treat another member with hateful actions if they do not follow the demands of the cult.

  This has been my life. Lost wife, lost brother and two sisters, one of my children.

  It is so difficult, to know that I have done no wrong, yet I am treated as dead by some of my family.

  The reality of it all, hangs over me all day every day. Try as I may it never goes away.

  I can be enjoying my true worldly friends and neighbors. Still it is in the back ground, quietly waiting to display itself again and again.

  If I am in the restaurant I like the most and joking with a waitress, one of the men who at a time earlier in my life, showed he wanted to know one of my daughters, will show up and in his own way show me that he hates me and shuns me.

  I have decided to tell the waitress's and other friends here, why he behaves as he does toward me. At first they can't believe it. Lately I can see that they are starting to see it for themselves.

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  Are there any EX JW Dating sites?

  by Ariel84 in

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  i was just wondering if anyone had come across any dating sites for ex jws?

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  Single male, live in small town in Idaho.

  Own my home and a rental.

  like the outside and boating.

  Good income.

  Older than dirt.

  Interested?

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  Do you have a hope for the future???

  by winnie in

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  just wondering, all who have left, are leaving, or are still 'in' and no longer believe.. jw's have the hope of living forever...paradise...etc.. what is your hope for the future?.

  do you still think there is the chance of living forever...paradise...etc..

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  I hope to live out my life, being a nice person, helpful and caring and honest.

  Then if there is life after death I may or may not make it and I am ok with that.

  Other than that, I do not have any control on the future. Maybe that will or will not get me there, IF there is a there.

  So NOW in the present I refuse to worry or concern myself about these issues.

  Make each and every day pleasant if you can.

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  Convince me to move to your State (U.S. Only)

  by liquidsky in

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  my husband and i are throwing around the idea of moving to a different state.

  nothing is set in stone yet, but some changes in his career may allow for us to move wherever we like in the u.s. i love washington state, but i would like to move somewhere a little warmer.

  i've lived in washington all my life and i need a little help in learning about the rest of the u.s.. so convince me to move to your state.

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  South west Idaho.

  You get just about every thing ,in mountains, flat lands, rivers, creeks, lakes lots of timber and clear mountains.

  Also high desert. Lots of fishing and hunting skiing and snow boarding in the mountain areas which are close to the lower land where it rains.

  Snow in the mountains with rain in the lower levels.

  NO huge cities, lost of small towns with a few larger cities.

  I have lived in Portland Ore. San Diego Calif. "Southern Wyoming ugh!"

  Idaho beats them all.

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  Someone went through my trash again and again!

  by averyniceguy in

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  today, i went to put the trash outside and i opened my garbage can, i can tell that someone has been going thru my trash, i did not like it.

  it is not the first time.

  it has been going on several times in the past few weeks.

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  If you think it is serious enough, here is what I have done.

  buy a simple electric fencer and wind a small amount of wire or metal fencing around the container if it is plastic or non conductive and make sure it does not touch the ground.

  Plug the fencer into a 120 volt outlet and fasten its delivery wire to the wire on the garbage container. If the container is metal you have to arrange for the wire to be not touching the container or ground.

  A plastic container is much easier to wire.

  The fencer sends a high voltage non lethal pulse on a regular basis. Any animal including humans will not touch it more than once or twice. If you really want to jolt the animal, put a piece of bacon on the wire and tie it in place. They will try a few times to get it and then never again. To give a better jolt, water the ground around the container,

  Out ouch of the ouch org

  None of this will injure the animal or human. If done correctly .
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  Why is it so many Men agree to take on the Position of an Elder?

  by restrangled in

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  i just wonder because with the stresses of earning a living, taking care of immediate family, and getting in little free time that is available, why would anyone want to take on this extra job at no charge, answer to more bosses, and be submited to endless critisizing behind your back for decisions.

  it just seems crazy.. r..

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  I can understand your feelings SSPO. For those men who really felt the needs of others in both a religious area and other areas where we all need help at times. I had and have respect for them.

  I had a life that required a lot of my time and efforts at home. My first jw wife abandoned both me and our 4 children ages 12 yrs. to 18 months.

  I remarried "in the truth of course" to a young lady 9 yrs younger than me. It turned out that she had some emotional problems and of course we had some children of our own.

  I was dealing with all of this when I was pushed into being an elder. I had neither the time nor did I feel that I was qualified to counsel others.

  It didn't take much to see, that to deal with the arrogance of elders with no real education or the personality, to really try to understand the problems that some of the jw's were dealing with, often personal issues within the family or marriage was not working.

  Of course when it did not work, they blamed the persons they were supposed to help.

  In the few times that I was asked to help couples with problems, I knew no scripture that I felt was going to be of help.

  Having some knowledge of psychology " read a few books on it" I would turn to this and just talking to try to help. Often the couple involved would really thank me for the help and I would get hammered by other elders for not using scripture.

  Do I have mostly negative feelings about elders? Yes of course. However I also knew a "few" who were really trying hard to help. I think you might fit in with that few.

  So when I describe MY EXPERIENCES please do not think that I am degrading you or your efforts to be the kind and caring person we all admire.

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  Why is it so many Men agree to take on the Position of an Elder?

  by restrangled in

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  i just wonder because with the stresses of earning a living, taking care of immediate family, and getting in little free time that is available, why would anyone want to take on this extra job at no charge, answer to more bosses, and be submited to endless critisizing behind your back for decisions.

  it just seems crazy.. r..

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  I was threatened into being an elder. I actually did not believe I was qualified for that position.

  I had experience in management and a sheriffs deputy but I turned them down.

  Then I was told that there is the sin of omitting and the sin of comitting and if I did not accept I would be sinning by omitting Gods request.

  It was after I attended a few of the "elders only" meetings and teaching from the co and the arrogant disrespectful attitude of the older elders who had been in that position for a long time. That made any feeling of respect for them die away.

  Then I moved out of state and even though I had a letter of recommendation I refused to be an elder at this new K dumb hall congregation.

  After that it seemed that the local elders didn't like me there and this not liking me seemed to follow me when I moved back to Idaho. I wonder why?? NO I know why. I wasn't kissing ass. They don't like that.

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  Someone from Oregon "ME" - View on this James Kim event

  by free2beme in

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  i spent last saturday about 10 miles out of grants pass bring some supplies to a friend who was in the search and rescue for james kim, and talking with people who were looking for him.

  being a long time resident of oregon, i can tell you exactly where he was, as i have been down that road many many times.

  it is a remote location, at best, and locals mainly use it for hunting a fishing access, or maybe a chance to go motorcycle riding through the mountains.

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  Obnoxious? You?

  You're not obnoxious FHN.

  You'r just saying it out as you see it.

  With your knowledge of the coastal storms and having lived there.

  Why not?

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  Someone from Oregon "ME" - View on this James Kim event

  by free2beme in

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  i spent last saturday about 10 miles out of grants pass bring some supplies to a friend who was in the search and rescue for james kim, and talking with people who were looking for him.

  being a long time resident of oregon, i can tell you exactly where he was, as i have been down that road many many times.

  it is a remote location, at best, and locals mainly use it for hunting a fishing access, or maybe a chance to go motorcycle riding through the mountains.

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  I started 1st and 2nd grades in Grants Pass and have been to Gold Beach and the Red Woods a few times.

  It is fantasticly beautiful but you never mess with the winter weather. It is close to the Pacific Ocean and the storms that come in are loaded with water and the forests are tightly grown with huge trees very close to one another.

  Some of the unpaved roads in the woods are not easy for a car or pickup truck, even in the summer, since they are there for mainly logging trucks and earth moving equipment.

  It is beautiful like no where I have ever been.

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