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Hanging out with JWs is exhausting!
by StephaneLaliberte innot long ago, there was a funeral for a sister i haven’t know very much, so i did not attend.
however, some old “friends” i know drove down to town to assist and i ended up spending some time with them.
quite honestly, i was happy to see them again.
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I attended a family event once where I was expecting mostly relatives and friends to be in attendance. I did expect a handful of Witnesses to be there, but discovered almost a third in attendance were witnesses.
I felt I could let my hair down with everyone but the witnesses and avoided interaction with them as much as I could that night as had a skin full 🍻
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Bethelites are Employees
by berrygerry inbethel seems to have legal fires happening everywhere.
https://www.newera.com.na/2017/04/28/church-loses-labour-case/.
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However, the church argued that there is no employment relationship as the members have voluntarily devoted their lives to serving God, and carrying out their duties is merely a lifestyle and not a job, even though they failed to explain why they registered themselves as an employer.
“The congregation cannot pick and choose which laws should apply to them and which may not … it is evident that an employment relationship exists between the two parties,” explained Unengu, adding that the church cannot get a free card just because it is doing the work of God.
It's all about the 💰
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What was it like being a JW in the 1960's and 1970's
by UnshackleTheChains inthis is obviously a question for the older generation.
i'm really curious what it was like to be a witness in the 60's and 70's?.
was the society as strict as it is today?.
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I remember having get togethers and conversing with brothers on doctrines.
Wow, thanks for all the experiences and feedback guys.
Re the above. Conversation around doctrine is seriously lacking today at get togethers. You never hear brothers open up about 'their' take on doctrine. I wonder why 🤔
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What was it like being a JW in the 1960's and 1970's
by UnshackleTheChains inthis is obviously a question for the older generation.
i'm really curious what it was like to be a witness in the 60's and 70's?.
was the society as strict as it is today?.
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This is obviously a question for the older generation. I'm really curious what it was like to be a witness in the 60's and 70's?
Was the society as strict as it is today?
Did you feel proud to be a JW back then?
Were the brothers more loving in those days?
Just wanted to hear some experiences to compare with the way things are today
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IRS raids televangelist Benny Hinn's office in Grapevine
by Hecce inlocal.
irs raids televangelist benny hinn's office in grapevine.
lauren zakalik, wfaa2 hours agofacebook.
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The Governing Body WILL be sued in America collectively and individually in the near future!
by notsurewheretogo inso lloyd evans aka cedars says on his facebook page when he attended a reveal jw child abuse event.. .
interesting stuff but no details!.
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Religious abstention policy would come in effect with cases such as shunning and blood issue. A Church cannot be held responsible for what has said if it is in the promotion of their truly held religious beliefs
We are living in uncertain times Mr Oliver. Judging by that conference hosted by reveal news, I would suggest the GB members wear brown suits from now on. The new facilities in Warwick look good, but it's no ivory tower.
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Could a petition to make shunning illegal work?
by aboveusonlysky inwe're currently watching leah remini's series about scientology and the main thing she seems to focus on is the shunning policies of the scientology organization which let's face it are very similar to jw procedure.. i was wondering with all that's in the media recently about bullying could a petition be put together to get the goverment to consider making religiously mandated shunning illegal?
has such a thing been tried before?.
https://petition.parliament.uk/help says the following - .
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Also as a reminder most constitutions only bar the state from encroaching into a person's constitutionally protected rights, there is very little that stops a private individual or institution from doing that unless otherwise prescribed by law. That is why the KKK and other hate groups still operate in free countries like the USA. You can spout out hate speech all you want you can't induce a person to assault or kill someone but you can preach hate. Even in France one of the major candidates for President is accused as being a hate monger.
Yep that may be true Richard Oliver.. Yet, though they have the freedom of speech, how do most people view the KKK? How do most people view scientologists? What comes to the average person's mind when they think of Jehovah's Witnesses?
The biggest detriment any organisation can have on individuals is when 'their' name causes alarm bells to ring in a person's minds.
A name means a lot to people. Any organisations name that conjures up thoughts or feelings such as 'extremist', 'high control', 'cult' is far far more damaging than any legal processes.
Such thoughts create barrier's in people's minds and therefore can act as a barrier in preventing individuals getting involved in such organisations.
The Watchtower Society do a fantastic job of portraying themselves as a very extreme high control religious group.
So I take my hat of to the GB who portray the organisation in this manner. The result....People are less likely and 'wary' of getting involved.
Keep up the good work Mark, Geoff, Garret, Stevie, Sam, Tight pants Tony iii; and the overlapping generation's presenter guy (re jw broadcasting) 😋.
Btw.....Thanks to aboveusonlysky for asking this really important question.
To be honest.....Any pressure put on the WTB&TS to bring about change/reform has my blessing.
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Has anyone done a point by point refutation of Fritz Springmeier's The Watchtower and the Masons: A Preliminary Investigation?
by ILoveTTATT2 inis there a point by point refutation of that book?it's the source of all of the "russell was a mason" conspiracy.
i started reading the book and i noticed some pretty obvious holes in the argument... for example, he writes that the pyramid-shaped monument is "proof" and we all know it isn't.here is the book if you want to check it out.https://archive.org/details/fritzspringmeierthewatchtowerandthemasons1990_201603.
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I always remember the hypocrisy of one particular elder in an old hall many many years ago. I won't go into all his misdeeds, but there were many.
This guy was a complete control freak. If things weren't done right the way he wanted them, he would let you know about it. Anything questionable was always pointed out by him. It used to grind everyone's gears.
One big wtf moment came when he hired a Masonic hall to hold a party. Witnesses from a number of various Congregations attended without an eyebrow being raised. I have nothing against the Freemasons. But at the time I was thinking we are giving money to this highly secretive organisation with all its controversies. I remember how it deeply stumbled me at the time when I was a JW that didn't want my conscience affected in Jehovah's eyes.
It makes me laugh how self righteous some elders are when it suits them.
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Next weeks Watchtower. ' Who is leading God's people today'
by UnshackleTheChains innext weeks watchtower.
'who is leading god's people today' is quite incredible.
i am so looking forward to blondie's comments on this one.
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16. What is one way to remember the Governing Body?
16. Read Hebrews 13:7. The word rendered “remember” can also be translated “mention.” Therefore, one way you can “remember those who are taking the lead” is by mentioning the Governing Body in your prayers. (Eph. 6:18) Reflect on their responsibility to supply spiritual food, to oversee the global preaching work, and to manage donated funds. Surely they need our persistent petitions in their behalf!
So. We are to mention the head of a publishing corporation specifically in our prayers ie the 'Governing Body'. This unique name that manifested itself in the 1940's; despite the fact that this term is used generally by various corporations and organisations world wide
Definition of governing body in English:
governing body
NOUN
A group of people who formulate the policy and direct the affairs of an institution in partnership with the managers, especially on a voluntary or part-time basis.
‘the school's governing body’Heb 13:7 says we are to remember those taking the lead among us and Consider the outcome of their behaviour and to imitate their faithWell, we do remember eg Geoffrey Jackson's performance at the Australian Royal Commissions hearing. That was memorable!!We also remember their behaviour. At first glance, they look like really nice caring men on JW broadcasting; but as this site and many others have shown, the Governing Body have total disregard for members who have been emotionally and physically hurt because of the policies 'they' are happy to keep in place regardless. This, despite the many many outcries of thousands of individuals pleading for change to some of these hurtful policies. The 'leaders' show no mercy. That is their behaviour towards the flock.Eph 6:18 says to offer supplication for the holy ones.Clearly a prayer in general for ALL Christians.Yet the rank and file are being spoon fed the idea that the holy ones are specifically the seven men in upstate New York called uniquely 'the Governing Body' (the leadership of a very large publishing corporation which originally was not to be viewed as a religion, but simply a business as stated by Charles Taze Russell)If the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses want to earn true respect as leaders, they need to make some very big changes and put an end to the misery and pain suffered because of their policies. Jesus condemned the Pharisees for their many unnesessary rules that were a burden on the people.Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses-Your many rules are burdensome to your members. Have the mind of Christ and put an end to ALL 'your' unnesessary rules.Show mercy, Show kindness, Show humility, Show love