Posts by UnshackleTheChains

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Remember the Revelation book?

by wozza in

i recall when it was released ,that's when i was a drone, how excited i felt at the prospect of reading it and formulating ways to sell it at the homes in my area.. i thought, finally a book to explain the last book in the bible and indeed one that the churches seemed to want to leave alone!.

i sold quite a few probably because of my enthusiasm and can still remember clearly the first day when i went knocking on doors with it ,and it's been decades since.. but over time it lost it's shine and my mind started to question the explanations in it due to the scene of other things being changed in the jw beliefs.. do you remember they flogged that book so many times in the book studies even when it was found to have "newer light " eclipsing it!.

who else remembers the printed pages with the official corrections to insert into the book ,so many that the book collapsed to be of no relevance anymore really.....what an embarrassment!.

UnshackleTheChains

The revelation book proves beyond any doubt how insular and self obsessed the society was and still is.

The revelation book for me was a giant red flag that helped me wake up. On several occasions I remember conducting the study as a stand in and it was especially during preparation for the group study I remember thinking WTF. Sorry for the French, but I just couldn't believe how they were interpretating everything and it was always connected to either a leaflet, a book or convention.

I always remember thinking if anyone else thought what I was thinking. Like sheep of course everyone would parrot what was written in the paragraph when a question was asked. This book is one of the craziest interpretations of the book of revelation!

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3M Corporation-- You are Absolutely DISGUSTING - I hope you are sitting down when reading this

by RubaDub in

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i was watching the local news in the background and i heard a guy talking about 3m and how florida was getting screwed.

i didn't hear the whole report.. later, i was switching through the channels and i saw the same guy talking to tucker carlson (fox news).

come to find out he is the federal cdc equivalent at the state level.

UnshackleTheChains

The federal govt needs to set u alternative manufacturers to get these masks out and put 3M out of business. Assholes

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Unbelievable!

by The Fall Guy in

you gotta listen to the first 60 seconds of the special talk drivel.. you'll immediately see why i've put this under jokes & humour.

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https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/vodspecialtalk2020/pub-sp-tk20r_1_video.

UnshackleTheChains

Apart from the very occassional interesting talk, i have always found that most speakers come across in the same manner or in a similar montone way. Boring talks parroting watchtower teachings with no real heart.

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Unbelievable!

by The Fall Guy in

you gotta listen to the first 60 seconds of the special talk drivel.. you'll immediately see why i've put this under jokes & humour.

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https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/vodspecialtalk2020/pub-sp-tk20r_1_video.

UnshackleTheChains

Since when did Watchtower acknowledge the “United Kingdom” was even a thing? I thought it was “Britain” (England, Scotland, and Wales) and “Ireland” (Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland) in their worldview.

Does this mean the Republic of Ireland gets a separate talk, and Northern Ireland is now covered by the United Kingdom? Or are they including the Republic of Ireland under “United Kingdom

Imho...Having lived in Ireland (south) for many years, the conventions were always held with an all Ireland perspective. This was purely down to logistics. It was easier for people to attend conventions from all parts of Ireland in the one place. So, one year, the convention might be held in cork, the next year Belfast and the next Dublin. Of course jw's are non political, so don't look at borders and regions in the same way. They view Ireland in its entirety based purely on a geographical perspective, being as practical and logistical as possible in feeding "their sheep"

Their reference to the United Kingdom is interesting though from a watchtower perspective

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Today’s nauseating WT

by Slidin Fast in

i am sitting at home, trying not to barf as this wt paragraph by paragraph tries to character assassinate those who have the temerity to take the emblems.

the unwritten, unspoken subtext is that they, the gb, the now distinct and separate “slave” are above all this.

they, the gold standard are immune to this questioning.

UnshackleTheChains

I'm listening to it just now and it's turning my stomach. Control, control, control

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Legal Concerns About "Zoom" Meetings!

by Atlantis in

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this whole "zoom" thing has got me wondering whether some of it is legal or not.

if a person has to dress up for a zoom meeting the way the watchtower dictates, doesn't this really go "beyond" cult?.

even the cults who committed mass suicide were able to dress the way they wanted for their meetings.

UnshackleTheChains

Jehovah's witnesses are not a cult!!?

Then

why are most of us on this site hiding our identities

Why are there so many heart breaking stories of mothers, brothers, sons and daughters no longer allowed to keep in contact with each other as a result of the disfellowshipping/disassociation policy

Why are members unnessessarily dying as a result of the blood policy that no other Christian organisation or indeed orthodox Jews agree with?

Why are members not allowed to question the leadership?

Why are the elders so controlling over its members lives?

Why don't the leadership comply with the higher authorities and hand over their database of alleged child abusers within their ranks?

Why can't members be allowed their own conscious decisions when it comes to holidays/birthdays etc

Why does the leadership manifest an orwellion approach to their history, ie destroying their old books/heritage.

I could go on and on.

I think everyone can judge for themselves if they consider the watchtower Bible and tract society to be a cult or not.

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Repeating Jehovah Jehovah Jehovah

by Davros in

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went to a meeting after a long absence.

after being away for so long, its still the same old thing.

(this was a couple of weeks ago before the zoom thing).

UnshackleTheChains

Completely agree with the OP.

I haven't been to a meeting in 2 years and have been listening lately to the new communication tool they use on their tablets for meetings. My Mrs is currently listening to this in the living room and can over hear.

I too noticed the constant use of the 15th century name 'Jehovah' all the way through the watchtower article and in the answers and prayers. It's incredibly excessive and annoying.

What they don't realise is that it is a very over familiar way of refering to the creator of the universe. Could you imagine one of the queen of England's servants speaking to her by calling her "Elizabeth" !!!

Whenever Jesus prayed to God, he always referred to God in an a close intimate way by calling him 'father'. He even told those in the sermon on the mount how we were to pray to God.. "Our father, who is in heaven......."

Whenever I pray to God, I always address him as my heavenly father. I never refer to him as Jehovah.

The jdubs are way of track on this one. But hey, it's a cult!

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2020--2 Letters--Coronavirus--Memorial!

by Atlantis in

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2020 march 9, letter.

https://docdro.id/cfjrhgb.

2020 march 12, letter--coronavirus--memorial.

UnshackleTheChains

Nice one. 👍😎

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What triggered your awaking?

by Fadeaway1962 in

i was listening to a radio show about a jw women who had been disfellowshiped , her daughter cut off all contact ,must admit at the time i thought so what.. then this man phoned up and explained he was disfellowshiped for asking about jws being ngo in the united nations during 90s till early 2000s when a newspaper exposed them , i still thought he's a apostate but looked it up found the article then found this forum and even more info..

UnshackleTheChains

I got baptized at 23. My mother became a jdub when I was 16.

I always had some nagging doubts, but the revelation book..it's grand climax at hand really started to wake me up to the BS spewing from watchtower

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What triggered your awaking?

by Fadeaway1962 in

i was listening to a radio show about a jw women who had been disfellowshiped , her daughter cut off all contact ,must admit at the time i thought so what.. then this man phoned up and explained he was disfellowshiped for asking about jws being ngo in the united nations during 90s till early 2000s when a newspaper exposed them , i still thought he's a apostate but looked it up found the article then found this forum and even more info..

UnshackleTheChains

It started in 2004 when I was up at Bethel helping painting the interior of the old factory buildings. Walking around Brooklyn I couldn't understand why the wt. had so many buildings they were not using but to house bethelites to maintain the buildings. That really bother me alot! This reality lead me to look into other things because of the doubts this caused

That's an excellent point. Did the watchtower society morph into a corporation that seems more obsessed with real estate using religion as a front to achieve their aims. Is it the case that the love of riches (real estate) has been made the priority over everything. It baffles me why they have so much properties. Their latest ventures in New York's state will have many people wondering why? Why when Armageddon is so imminent. It doesn't make sense to the rank and file looking at things from a faith perspective!