Thanks Blondie, I use some of your comments (paraphrased) in emails to my brother who I hope will someday awaken him.
Thanks Again, for you work and comments.
JakeM2012
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BLONDIE'S COMMENTS YOU WILL NOT HEAR AT THE 07-21-2013 WT STUDY (MARRIAGE)
by blondie inwt publications http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm (old).
why do marriage mates need to.
show respect for each other?.
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"Worldly people don't love the same as Jehovah's Witnesses"
by Comatose inin a conversation with my mum she said, "son the friends love you and care about you so much.
they would die for you.
that's something you don't find in the world.
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One ex-brother illustrated it to me this way; being an active witness is like being on a party boat floating down the river. Everyone on board is happy patting each other on the back, using each other for experiences, giving talks, going to dinner parties, invites, life is grand. Then somehow you end up falling off the boat.
While in the water your yelling for help as the boat slowly moves on down stream and the sound and lights gets further and further away. You can hear the laughing of the witnesses on the boat as it gets further away. But no one hears your screams for help. You swim ashore, and after spending the night cold and wet, you wake up to the smell of coffee and bacon. You stumble down a small trail on the riverbank and find others that have fallen off the boat. You drink coffee, have breakfast, and hear the experiences of a few of the people that have fallen off the river boat. You find that everyone is in various stages of reestablishing their life.
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Getting ready to pull up stakes again--have to sign off at the end of the month.
by humbled ini'm starting to pack.
gotta get out of here by the end of the month.
i'll loose the internet.. it's stange to pop in and pop out of the lives of others' like this.
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Until we meet again, "see you around when I see you around".
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NYT Breaking News-Internet Disrupts Mormon Church
by Band on the Run inexcuse tyoos.
i am breaking in a new smart phone keyp.
yesterday or today s mobile breaking news summary included a piece that ranked with the syrian civil war, the zimmemsn trial aftermath, business newd , etc.
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JakeM2012
"Mr. Mattsson said he felt that the foundation on which he had built his life began to crumble."
Wow, that sounds familiar.
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How successful we're quickly builds in your area
by joe134cd ini remember hearing about quickly builds how this was a sign of jehovah's spirit that the kh could be built in 3 days.
but what i am wondering is just how successful we're these builds.
i can think of a couple of halls that were built by the quickly built methods that i would suspect they would of lost money on.
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Watchtower has had its problems with mold, some of the halls were completely torn down and others gutted. At one time WTBTS had a department that investigated the mold issues. I would say it is fairly simple, in the early days they built the hall in two days no matter what the weather was. If it was raining, there would be sisters putting up the insulation in the walls and the roof wasn't even framed or decked, therefore the rain got the insulation wet, and later it was locked up in the wall when sheetrocked.
Another thing to consider is the cost of food for the workers. If my memory is correct, the RBC would recognize a cost of $30,000-$40,000 per hall. And this is with "free labor".
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30 JWs baptized every hour
by Calebs Airplane ini just came across this gem on "the chatanoogan"... it was an ad/article about the 2013 dc at the nw georgia trade & convention center arena .... what i found most interesting was the fluff at the end of the article.... fast facts - jehovah's witnesses worldwide.
6 - new congregations formed each day30 - people baptized each hour on average239 - lands where jehovah's witnesses currently preach595 - languages in which they publish bibles and bible-based literature111,719 congregations worldwide7,538,994 - ministers who teach the bible19,000,000 - people who attend their meetings or conventions179,000,000 - bibles published by jehovah's witnesses in 116 languages20,000,000,000 - pieces of bible-based literature published by jehovah's witnesses over the past 10 yearsare you kidding me?
6 congos formed each day?
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- 595 - Languages in which they publish Bibles and Bible-based literature
Interesting thoughts from the translation blog http://www.translationblog.co.uk/exactly-how-many-languages-are-there-in-the-world/
"So how many of these languages are regularly translated by Applied Language? Well, it’s a lot but not quite 6909…….we reckon that about 200 languages are translated regularly by our global offices into documents, websites, brochures and anything else you can imagine. The range of languages required by our interpreting team is rather smaller at about 100."
"The difference is no mystery; companies that translate their promotional material may be selling into every part of the globe and therefore their need is very broad whilst a hospital in Manchester, for example, will only have to deal with the resident non-native speakers and unwell tourists that come through its doors. Although the interpreting requirement is significant, it rarely exceeds 100 different languages."
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"Worldly people don't love the same as Jehovah's Witnesses"
by Comatose inin a conversation with my mum she said, "son the friends love you and care about you so much.
they would die for you.
that's something you don't find in the world.
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Oh, I have experienced the "love" from the congregation and the JW "familial love" from my brothers and mother. The wonderful traits that dominates the "spirit of the congregation", the body of elders, and my family are a rguing, blaming, complaining, criticizing, competing, controlling others, and judging others/events. I just really enjoy being the recipient of "love" when a fleshly brother or a fellow elder campaign a character assasination upon you. I can say that since I have left that I have not experienced anything like it. Unbelievable.
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30 JWs baptized every hour
by Calebs Airplane ini just came across this gem on "the chatanoogan"... it was an ad/article about the 2013 dc at the nw georgia trade & convention center arena .... what i found most interesting was the fluff at the end of the article.... fast facts - jehovah's witnesses worldwide.
6 - new congregations formed each day30 - people baptized each hour on average239 - lands where jehovah's witnesses currently preach595 - languages in which they publish bibles and bible-based literature111,719 congregations worldwide7,538,994 - ministers who teach the bible19,000,000 - people who attend their meetings or conventions179,000,000 - bibles published by jehovah's witnesses in 116 languages20,000,000,000 - pieces of bible-based literature published by jehovah's witnesses over the past 10 yearsare you kidding me?
6 congos formed each day?
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I wonder why they don't report how many per day are ceasing any activity or association with JW's?
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Fading & Feeling Lost ... Part 2
by What Now? insorry to keep dragging this on ... but this is really the only place to vent right?
so basically it's going on 4 months now that we've had zero meeting attendance, and for the last 2 months we have not reported any service time (prior to that, when our service group overseer would send a text asking for our time, we would report 4 hours each, for our "family study").
in my last post, i talked about how we were having a really difficult time beginning a new life outside the organization.
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Hang in there, WhatNow. I can appreciate your situation as I'm in one similar. I have found the last few years difficult, but things are much better now, and I wouldn't go back to JW fairy-friendland for anything. I'm not dissassociated or dissfellowshiped, but in my family, all are still in except me, but there is no correspondence, talk, nothing. Actually, I enjoy the peace, as they did nothing but fight anyway. (Fine examples of Christianity) The fighting and the judgemental attitude of not only my family, but the majority of people in the congregations is what helped me awake and face hard facts.
I know that temporarily having a diminished social network is difficult and depressing. However, any JW friendship is conditional and temporary, and is usually based upon work that you do. For instance, you could have friends from the mid-week service, working on the quickbuilds, mowing the grass, etc. But most brothers or sisters didn't act like true friends unless it was based on these works and limited to that time, meaning if you stopped working on the quickbuilds, you most likely would not have contact with your Quickbuild "Friends".
You can put so much effort into being their friends and they will drop you like a rock when they are through using you. I recall the many get-to-gethers that my wife and I had, and rarely would anyone invite us over even if all they could afford was beans. The gatherings I sponsored were well organized, fun, and plentiful, and they were also a lot of work and money. I'm not the person that kept score that I had someone over x number of times and I expected x number of times in return. I'm just saying that I was socially active when I was a witness, and I invited everyone, not just a click of people. Now, I feel like I'm treated like having leprosy.
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Former Longtime Elder - Reflections
by James Jackson inthe meetings are getting more boring to me.
some of the elders during their parts just talk and talk and talk about uninteresting things.
boring, boring.
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Clarity, I agree, run like hell. You are playing with fire thinking that you know what your getting into and can handle the situation. If you play with fire you will get burned. Just saying.
I gave over 47 years of my life, and look back on the sacrifices and think, "Why, what was I thinking"? When I was an elder I was always getting into it with the "Bulldozer" elders that were hard-line company men that felt compassion, mercy, or love was a weakness. I have some relatives in my family that still serve as these "superfine apostles".
For me, the last 18 years of meetings were a stretch to attend. It irritated me that Bible Highlights would run for 12-15 minutes, absolutely no consideration for the time. Young MS servants or inexperienced elders would get up for the service meeting read 15 minutes of letters from the society, and then break into 2-4 magazine demonstrations running a 8 minute Service Meeting introduction into a 8 minute + 15 minutes overtime. I had no problems getting up to do the last part and commenting about the title of the part, and tell the audience that we were out of time. I would then introduce the song and have a very short prayer. It used to be there was some leaway for comments in your own words, bringing in brief experiences or things studied. Now, it seems that you have to comment using the exact wording in the paragraph or the conductor will ask the question again until he gets the exact paragraph wording. Reading the paragraph three times is boring.
Observations of potential elders: I have talked with many brothers that have served as elders before, and they are not interested in doing the work. These were men that were reasonable and easy to get along with, but ended up on the other side of an adverse elder body. Elder bodies have purged anyone that wasn't a full blooded company man. Elders that had experience in the military seem to like being elders and thrive. If the elders think that you are smarter or have more knowledge in the truth than themselves, you will probably not be appointed unless there is some major butt kissing. The problem with this is that if everyone in the organization from the top to the bottom has to be smaller than their superior, then you end up with a mentally shallow group. The current state of elders is just that, a mentally shallow group that is lost.