Booker T, I am so glad you used your free time to learn other languages, so impressive.
Now, you have millions of other people to act like an idiot for.
i remember when i was a "devout" jws i could not wait to get the new watchtowers and awakes from the wednesday nite theocratic ministry school.
i would actually salivate thinking of the new information jehovah had in the magazines for us.
i was "franatical" and i would go home still in my three piece suit and devour the magazines that very nite.
Booker T, I am so glad you used your free time to learn other languages, so impressive.
Now, you have millions of other people to act like an idiot for.
the primary money making for the watchtower corporation has been to scam people into being door to door saleman for their product for free or practically for free.
bethel is all run by unpaid workers who claim a vow of poverty, bad for the worker but lucrative for the corporation.. now this printing of literature business must be loosing money now that they went over to a free will donation and not asking for a dollar amount in return for the stuff they produce.
so what are some possible restructuring that they can do to offset this downward trend in income?.
Realestate flipping, using "volunteer" labor to maintain, rebuild, build, etc, they have also slipped into providing the cars for the CO's that I believe is a money maker for them, as is their insurance programs for the congregations.
Relief work WTS does with volunteer labor in areas of disaster is all done with volunteer labor, and many donated materials, but they encourage the publishers to donate the full amount of insurance received from the real insurance companies to the society.
They have the assembly halls to fleece several times a year, if your old and wealthy they are interested in your money.
They have money invested in stock portfolios and hedge funds that most of us do not have access to. It looks like they are going out of the printing business by the size of the magazines, and hammering these other areas as they still claim a non-profit status on all their endeavors.
i remember when i was a "devout" jws i could not wait to get the new watchtowers and awakes from the wednesday nite theocratic ministry school.
i would actually salivate thinking of the new information jehovah had in the magazines for us.
i was "franatical" and i would go home still in my three piece suit and devour the magazines that very nite.
Greetings eyeusedtobeadub, I enjoyed your comments and welcome you to the forum. I didn't see where you had posted an introduction, but with your experience, we would love to hear your story.
as an illustration/example : the two mature age women who were mauled by a dog recently who underwent a horrific experience when they were engaged in feild service for the wtb&ts and needed medical treatment and hospital care , if they had so chosen to do so ,couldnt they have sued the organization for their failure of duty of care ?
how many more such cases happens that we dont hear about ?
injuries at conventions , in field service ,on the way ,driving to field service or assemblys , accidents etc.
Bob_NC, good points. That has always irritated me, the congregation paying "insurance premiums" but they can't ever make a claim. I wonder how many "insurance" companies would be in business today? Not from the lack of payouts on claims, but because the lack of business? WTBTS makes money off of the "insurance" they sell to the congregations, and state to the congregations that it is lower in price and more comprehensive than a worldly company would offer. However, there are laws that regulate the world's insurance companies that WT never has to abide by. Another point of them avoiding regulations because of their Non-Profit status.
have a local needs on apostasy, have everyone shun you, have no shepherding calls since you left for over a year, and now a jc tomorrow evening????????.
spoke to branch committee as well as co and they said to go and if we were treated unfairly then to call the co. don't get it.
the co would have known about the local needs talk on apostasy and says if we were treated unfairly to call him.
Newly E says, "Our lawyer said that we are entitled to legal representation if this is a judicial committee and if not, they are violating our civil rights."
AMEN, always have someone go with you when you see a doctor because you might miss something said or forget to say, and always have someone else present when talking to any elder especially a "judicial committee". I have seen some elders start badgering the interigated person. How embarassing.
The back stabbing of elder-to-elder got so bad I would never talk with a elder alone, that way if something is commented on at least you have someone else's memory to help out.
i remember when i was a "devout" jws i could not wait to get the new watchtowers and awakes from the wednesday nite theocratic ministry school.
i would actually salivate thinking of the new information jehovah had in the magazines for us.
i was "franatical" and i would go home still in my three piece suit and devour the magazines that very nite.
Booker, "I don't mean to be judging you" but,... CAN IT. Blondies comments has helped many recognize and identify the indoctrinational thinking process used by WTBTS when reading the magazines. I have enjoyed her posts.
i think my mother has lost it.
i really do and i am in fear that she is literally losing touch with reality to some degree.. even my father is telling me that her responses to me are growing weirded:.
the scriptures tell us that we can be wrathful.......but don't sin.
Sosoconfused, I am sorry for the stress with your mother. You seem to be a nice guy. I don't have any helpful advise, as I have endured a strained relationship with my mother, who, up until my father died, mom and I had no problems ever. So, I write to let you know that there are others in similar circumstances.
My situation is probably not unique, but I have a fleshly brother that plays very dirty; meaning launching and dropping a Hiroshima/Nagasaki bomb like character assasination composed of treacherous lies of me and my family shortly after my dad died. (He's a Bethel graduate of 12 years, what else would you expect?). My mother chose to believe his lies, and now there is a division in the family greater than any before. At first, it really emotionally hurt, and as it has been going on for 12 years now, I have never seen a chance for even a truce so I "turned the other cheek".
It seems that nothing I could do has helped; any effort on my part was quickly spun to be evil by my brother who has control of my mother. So I have chosen to recognize that there are somethings that I cannot change. I chose this path so that I would not let their hatefulness and lies affect the peace in my immediate family.
However, although there are circumstances I might not be able to change, but that does not leave me without control. One scriptural idea from Proverbs that I thought was wise, is a simple one, "Where there is no wood the fire goes out, and where there is no slanderer contention grows still." My silence has been equal to removing the wood that was being used against me and my family and hopefully, the slander would stop, or at least become a non-issue to me. My wife and family have enjoyed virtually uninterrupted peace since, although this was a difficult decision for me, I'm happy with it.
Jehovah's Witnesses have a religion that is fundamentally at war with the basic family structure, and unfortuneately we are the collateral damage.
Again, I think I may know how this weighs on you, and I feel for you.
my voice is sore from shouting this afternoon.
i'm so so happy.
did all you brits watch?
I thought Anne Murray was a female singer in America? Awesome!!!
hello ,i am a jw,been in the "truth " for about 6 years.i have to be very careful because i know the witnesses monitors sites and report to the elders ,i know cause that is what my blood sister does,she spends hours trying to find apostates in the closet.i know stuped.. so this is my situation.i have known about jw almost all my life and heard that only them have the truth,lots of my family are in it.i was the one taking too long to baptize ,i knew it was expected from me.and i always had a need to make ppl like me .so i took the dip.i started to notice that there are lots of jws that belong to little groups.i wanted friendship so bad and at the time had a need o tell ppl about my horrible childhood traumas i guess i was not over it yet,and needed some to lisent since i had drove my spouse nuts already .what happend this ppl pretend to want to be close to me so they can know all my business and then tell everyone at the hall.then you realize uhhh,they never confided their personal stuff to me.is like a game " you can tell me your stuff,but do not expect me to keep it to myself and do not think i will tell you my dirty laundry.a lot of mind games.. so i was alone ,invisible ,i still can't believe i put up with so much !
i can't wright not even half of what i when through.i feel paranoic now.so i came across a youtube video by jwstruggle and blow my mind ,now i can't stop researching,my spouse is not a jw,and is very shock too.so i decided that i want to fade,i guess it won't be so hard since the sis and brothers did not had a close relationship with me.i have kids and i suffer from pts ,anxiety attacks,panick attacks and severe depression.i moved to the next town of my hall,so i have change hall too.i have not been to my new hall,and wanted to know,will the elders in my old hall contact the elders in my new hall just to see if i am attending?..
my spouse told me " i will tell them i am not letting you go" "and "i found out that your liars!
Free thinking,!!!!! your so excited!!!! I had a hard time reading your post with no paragraph spacing or capitals, but I made it through and I'm glad you had a place to vent:)!!!!!!!!!! Who knows you might be typing from a smartphone.
WELCOME, to the forum, and I sincerely appreciate your experience. Take a Xanex, or Klonopine and try to chill, a margarita might not hurt either....
It all gets better; this is not the end of the world; and if you continue to read you will see that there are many experiences like yours. Welcome again, and we know that is not your real sister that is looking for apostates,,,,,,you wouldn't have told us that, Oh LOL's.
so i brought this up in another thread... but i think it needs its own discussion.. having had one of the new grey leatherette and silver edged bibles with the new appendixes in my hand.
i immediately thought of all the custom covered nwt bibles you see some publishers sporting at meetings.
also the fact that the co's and wives who'd been given one had to turn it back in seemed very off-putting.. .
I have a half of a box of black and red "deluxe" NWT Bibles. I'd have to dig them out, but I think they are there.