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  Do you believe in ghosts?

  by Country Girl in

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  2. friends

  i am posting this because i know there are many people that have had experiences that cannot be explained by natural means.

  i am a ghost hunter, as a hobby.

  my hobby is to disprove ghosts.

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  enoughisenough

  my mate and I were in a motel room for the night...2 beds , a bedside table apart. We each took a bed. I wasn't quite asleep when I felt I was being cozied up to, you know, warm flesh against yours... That was ok, until I noted I could hear my mate breathing/snoring from the other bed. So I joined my mate!
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  question for those who either aux pioneered pioneered

  by enoughisenough in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  how many of you would have spent the hours "pioneering" if it weren't for the pats on the back and being looked up to as someone special in the congregation?

  i will admit that back in late 1970's i attempted to aux pioneer during a campaign because it was promoted and seemed the right thing to do,but i didn't get the hours and it was stressful trying to...and i didn't feel like a cheerful giver.

  i never attempted it again.

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  phizzy "right thing to do" yeah, there is a lot of emotional blackmailing going on in the org-guilt tripping people into even selling their homes, taking advantage of others and taking odd jobs, etc. to continue to do it. But it seems to me, there were the Kudos---the organization has special meetings/schools for them. Others in the congregation put at least some of them on a pedistal. ( Pioneer only parties or maybe dinners where only pioneer and elders/family were invited.) James said not to be comparing ourselves with others, but the org itself sets up these divisions. I personally never fell into the trap of thinking the elders or pioneers were better/more spiritual minded than me.-Bible says there are gifts in men, and not all have the same gifts..( that being said ,I don't think for the most part that others considered me "spiritual minded".) I also felt that some of the pioneers were more judgemental of others who didn't pioneer and even had a jealousy over other pioneers. -some who have pioneered can speak to that......
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  questions for those who were once elders

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i watched some wendi renay youtube videos.

  the former elder who was being interviewed mentioned a couple of things i noted.

  i would like to know what your reactions were at the time you learned what i am going to relate if you had the same or kindred experience.

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  enoughisenough

  desirous of change "Elders are also the "glorious ones". Best not speak poorly of the "glorious ones". That's grounds for DFing." I was set up once. The elders were trying to get a reason to axe me. I got a call from an elder in a congregation next state over. He knew of somethings going down in my life, but not sure exactly the how of that. Anyway, I was a bit suspicious of his call. In course of conversation, he ask Me, " are the elders there doing you any good?" --clearly a fishing expedition to get the goods on me for speaking against the "glorious ones". I was on to him! I said, "No, but they aren't doing me any harm either."
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  question for those who either aux pioneered pioneered

  by enoughisenough in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  how many of you would have spent the hours "pioneering" if it weren't for the pats on the back and being looked up to as someone special in the congregation?

  i will admit that back in late 1970's i attempted to aux pioneer during a campaign because it was promoted and seemed the right thing to do,but i didn't get the hours and it was stressful trying to...and i didn't feel like a cheerful giver.

  i never attempted it again.

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  enoughisenough

  How many of you would have spent the hours "pioneering" if it weren't for the pats on the back and being looked up to as someone special in the congregation? I will admit that back in late 1970's I attempted to aux pioneer during a campaign because it was promoted and seemed the right thing to do,but I didn't get the hours and it was stressful trying to...and I didn't feel like a cheerful giver. I never attempted it again.
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  questions for those who were once elders

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i watched some wendi renay youtube videos.

  the former elder who was being interviewed mentioned a couple of things i noted.

  i would like to know what your reactions were at the time you learned what i am going to relate if you had the same or kindred experience.

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  enoughisenough

  ThomasMore "As a result, many who followed their teachings now want nothing to do with the Bible, as if it was responsible for their ludicrous teachings." I have noticed this among the ex JWs...they cared enough about the Bible to "study" with the JW and become JW, and when they leave, many seem to distain the Bible and God Almighty.
  
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  Return door to door

  by Hellothere in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  any news about how it's going with the return too door 2 door preaching?

  are the jws excited about it?

  are they facing any opposition to it by householders?

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  enoughisenough

  I went to a thrift store yesterday, early afternoon and there were 3 sisters coming in as I was leaving. ( the youngest spoke to me ...her mother looked confused...I greeted them and ask how they were. and so got a reply One didn't say anything, but I had never known her anyway....they talked low while walking away-maybe about me!) so I digressed...Anyway, I am pretty sure, based upon hew the 3 were dressed, they had been out in "service"
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  questions for those who were once elders

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i watched some wendi renay youtube videos.

  the former elder who was being interviewed mentioned a couple of things i noted.

  i would like to know what your reactions were at the time you learned what i am going to relate if you had the same or kindred experience.

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  enoughisenough

  Chezdale, the information you brought out made me think of this Scripture : Job 38 :7 When the morning stars yoyfully cried out together , and the sons of God began shouting in applause. ...so a CO could stretch that out to say the elders being, as they claim ,the stars in Jesus hand , therefore angels. ( if you followed that line of reasoning)
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  questions for those who were once elders

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i watched some wendi renay youtube videos.

  the former elder who was being interviewed mentioned a couple of things i noted.

  i would like to know what your reactions were at the time you learned what i am going to relate if you had the same or kindred experience.

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  enoughisenough

  hellothere, I have read a lot of "stuff" and watched a lot of videos, so I don't know where I got this tidbit from and there may or may not be truth in it...but according to what I gleaned, the org stopped appointing the elders because if he turned out to be a bad choice, ( say maybe a pedophile ) the CO would take the fall, so to speak and not the GB.
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  Honest Hearted Ones

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there are certain wt terms that sound biblical but really just puff up the pride.

  hundreds of times the wt has used the term honest-hearted in their literature.

  it sounds biblical, if for no other reason because we hear it so often in jw circles.

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  enoughisenough

  the thought came to me, "the heart is treacherous, who can know it?" Hmm....there isn't anything honest about the WTBTS ( JWorg) built upon lies.
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  questions for those who were once elders

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i watched some wendi renay youtube videos.

  the former elder who was being interviewed mentioned a couple of things i noted.

  i would like to know what your reactions were at the time you learned what i am going to relate if you had the same or kindred experience.

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  enoughisenough

  I watched some Wendi Renay youtube videos. The former elder who was being interviewed mentioned a couple of things I noted. I would like to know what your reactions were at the time you learned what I am going to relate if you had the same or kindred experience.

  One thing he mentioned was the circuit overseer told them ( the elders ) that they were the angels in the congregations. Did this happen to you? How did it make you feel? Did it make you feel superior to the rest of the brothers and sisters? Did you think about it? Did you agree with it? If you didn't agree with it, what did you do about it? How do you feel/ think about it now verses then?Anything else you want to add.

  The other thing I noted was what he related they were taught in Elder's school: The Bible was written for the anointed-the only way the rest of the world gets salvation is by their relationship with the anointed. ( I think I got that right -and he may be reading this for all I know and correct me if I misrepresented anything he said. ) So if you were taught this in Elder school, How did it make you feel? Did you think about it? Did you agree with it? If you didn't agree with it, what did you do about it? If you did agree with it, how would you have explained it to the sheep you were supposed to be sheparding? How do you think about it now verses then? Anything else you want to add ( "enquiring minds want to know.")