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  G.B. of JW's update of a scripture.

  by BoogerMan in

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  (acts 20:33, 34) we have desired every man’s silver or gold or clothing.

  you yourselves know that these hands have never provided for our own needs and the needs of those with us.

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  enoughisenough

  Maybe not literallly by rewriting, but in practise, so I don't know why someone gave it a thumbs down. Thumbs up!!
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  Jehovah's Witness' bid to be excluded from abuse inquiry dismissed

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  link to article.

  a legal bid by the jehovah's witness church to get out of being part of the royal commission of inquiry into abuse in care has been dismissed by the high court in wellington.. after nearly three years of behind-the-scenes legal wrangling to avoid scrutiny from the inquiry, the church applied for a judicial review in june.. at a hearing, held earlier this month it argued it was beyond the inquiry's scope because it did not operate institutions that cared for children or vulnerable people and the inquiry had uncovered no evidence of abuse in that context.. lawyers representing the inquiry argued that jehovah's witness elders - equivalent to ministers or pastors - exercised a level of control over the congregation that allowed them access to children.. the inquiry informed abuse survivors who gave evidence to the inquiry in relation to the jehovah's witnesses of the news this afternoon.. "we have received advice from the high court that none of the causes of action brought by the jehovah's witnesses has succeeded and the application for judicial review has been dismissed.

  the judge's reasons are not yet available, but are expected in the near future," the email to survivors, seen by rnz, said.. the church was the only faith-based institution in the country to legally challenge its involvement in the inquiry, although it had attempted to challenge its status in other countries where similar inquiries have also been carried out.. the inquiry said, in a statement, that the dismissal "means the royal commission can continue to investigate the jehovah's witnesses, and all other faiths, in accordance with the pastoral care approach we have been applying since 2019".. "reasons for the high court's judgment are not yet available but are expected in the near future.

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  enoughisenough

  Yeah!
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  My conclusion on the matter

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after being brought up a jw, going to mts, bethel, pioneer school multiple times, serving in foreign assignments and having been an elder for decades my conclusion is that i am now pima, physically in mentally agnostic.. agnostic means you think it can’t be proven either way creation or evolution.

  i do tend to lean towards evolution but creation at the very start because you can’t get life from dead matter.

  but i’m open to the possibility of chance theory at the origin of it all.

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  ExBethelitenowPIMA...I didn't read all the comments, but I noted you made excuse for JW ( being they claim not to be inspired or infallable.) They are not excused where I am concerned ...I heard that years ago...it isn't NEW! They still claim to be the channel God is using and they you have to obey them because God and Jesus trust them and it is likened to listening to the voice of JESUS ( INEXCUSABLE!) You wrote, "we think....." not being dogmatic...oh yeah, but what if you speak against what they write ...see how dogmatic it really is. On another note: don't loose hope! Just be glad you discovered the falseness! Other religions are teaching falsely as well- read the Bible and let it speak to you...Jesus said people would worship in spirit and in truth...not in any organization.
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  2023-10-13-Announcement (Reporting Field Service)

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2023-10-13-announcements (reporting field service).

  page 1. https://imgbox.com/96lgsfw4 .

  page 2. https://imgbox.com/zynoa02m .

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  enoughisenough

  if there are scriptual reasons for not reporting the time, wouldn't logic tell you that there never was scriptual reasons for counting time...now they want it both ways...what is the scriptural reasons for pioneers to count time, but scriptual reasons for the rest not to count time. Does the rank and file and company men ever get their heads out of the sand even long enough to take a breath?
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  If you were to design a new religion?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what the jw sect has become and is slowly becoming is far more near what i thought could be a good religion based on the bible.. no more counting hours and no more blindly following direction now they admit they are not inspired.. i would like to design a new sect inside the jws.

  it has to be kept secret because the elders would not like it.. this new sect involves giving a tick every month or so saying you are still kindof active talking about the bible.. going to meetings occasionally and attending on zoom sometimes.

  very rarely go to ministry groups but don’t ever do first call, just say you are doing street work and have a nice walk somewhere maybe the shops or the park.

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  If I were designing a religion, there would be no speculations or conjectures. The rules would be set in stone and truth and easily understood by all, ( that is impossibe for us today, as "truth" is open to conjectures and speculations as to the meaning of so many variables- give me simple!!
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  Six minute video of WTBT$ begging for money, now on JWBorg website

  by EasyPrompt in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  six minute video of wtbt$ begging for money, now on jwborg website.

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/accomplishministry/pub-mwbv_202311_1_video.

  "thank you for 'setting something aside'" robert butler.

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  Beth Sarim...good point about tithing...with less people going d-d and collecting donations,and their comparison of counting time to tithing, I think the tithing dimmer switch is going to be turned up. When I was in and picking up literature to place, I always paid for the literature and turned in any donation...now they are barely printing anything, so less tangible to pay for ( after all, that is how they build their empire. )
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  Looking for those with legal expertise to work for free

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  an announcement to all congregations those with legal experience please come and work for free to cover up child abusers.. i mean what else would it be for?.

  the cheek of it.. so the direction was always don’t go for advanced education and careers but now they are looking for such ones to give if their time and education for free?.

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  they can pay high $ to cult apologist and those who defended the Catholic church, but they expect free labor from the "brothers" and "sisters"...JERKS!
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  Jehovah's Witnesses no longer count time. How is this news affecting moral and meeting attendance at local congregations?

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no more watchtower and awake mags every 2 weeks to place.

  no private home book studies.

  no more "essential" spiritual food meals 5x a week.

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  drearyweather....your poor delusional mother! She would be correct if God sanctioned the counting of time and that time change to start with...but we know he didn't. I was gullible...I woke up...I hope they all do! but for now, I am both ticked off at them and pity them at the same time.
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  Norway JWBorg news - WTBT$ demands subsidy despite their loss of religious status

  by EasyPrompt in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://cne.news/article/3755-norwegian-jehovah-s-witnesses-demand-subsidy-despite-their-loss-of-religious-status.

  jesus never demanded "subsidies" from the government to share truth.

  wtbt$ leaders love the god of their bellies/selfishdesires - having others provide communes for them in opposition to christ's direction.. .

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  Bible says to be no part of the World but "God's " organization wants money from the world...how does that work? Hypocrites!
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  You might be a JW if you...

  by Ron.W. in

  1. social
  2. humour

  this is a little out of date.

  i found it earlier deleting some emails from a good few years ago:.

  feel free to add new lines to this old list!.

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  enoughisenough

  You might be a jW if you stop at a yardsale and leave tracts

  You might be a JW if you spread newspapers over whole sections of seating in a convention center