Posts by enoughisenough

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Hotels for convention

by ElderBerry in

a department in bethel wants to try to make money from regional conventions by asking local hotels if they will give a special rate and a coupon code to give to jws.. .

they should just keep it simple and not be greedy for dishonest gain.. .

this year some convention sites the hotels said no thank you i think the jws are going to book with us anyway.

enoughisenough

I found this article: https://www.hotelmanagement.net/operate/paying-intermediaries-analysis-hotel-commissions

Intermediaries do make commissions so I am assuming the JW qualify based upon how I read it.

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Hotels for convention

by ElderBerry in

a department in bethel wants to try to make money from regional conventions by asking local hotels if they will give a special rate and a coupon code to give to jws.. .

they should just keep it simple and not be greedy for dishonest gain.. .

this year some convention sites the hotels said no thank you i think the jws are going to book with us anyway.

We were always told to support the rooming list as the best prices had been negotiated for us. This discussion suggests that the r and f are being lied to, but rather, it is the best deal for the org to make money. If this is the case, the r and f need to be told! So PIMOs tell it out! It was always a hardship to travel and stay in motels. ( and a struggle to get to the rooming list when it was posted because everyone wanted first shot at the best or cheapest places.) Again, I hope someone posts more info about how the rooming is actually managed if they know.

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General Amnesty For Disfellowshipped

by NotFormer in

future gb: "please come back!

all is forgiven!".

would it work?

enoughisenough

Would you be the dog who returned to it's vomit?

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Hotels for convention

by ElderBerry in

a department in bethel wants to try to make money from regional conventions by asking local hotels if they will give a special rate and a coupon code to give to jws.. .

they should just keep it simple and not be greedy for dishonest gain.. .

this year some convention sites the hotels said no thank you i think the jws are going to book with us anyway.

enoughisenough

If I understand this posting correctly, instead of booking for better rates for the witnesses, they are getting commissions...or are they getting better rates and commissions? Anyone with any personal knowledge in this area. I do know that they hold in reserve some close rooms ( we ended up in one one year ) it was a room we could not have rented without a connection. too long ago to remember the details...I just remember thinking it was unfair.

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The Meaning of ETC

by titch in

folks: i don't mean to be a "forum grammar policeman", but there is something that i've noticed a few times.

i've noticed that a few---not all---but some, members of the forum who use the abbreviation "ect" when they want to use the abbreviation of "etc.

" for your education today, the term "etc" is the abbreviation for the latin term "et cetera.

enoughisenough

I think it is more typo than not knowing how to actually print it out. I often see where I have crossed letters or left off letters.

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the 144,000 are "swingers"

by enoughisenough in

if you go to the official jw website and look up wt 1957 5/1 pages274-275 you will see the jw teaching.

from paragraph 5:.." paul identifies jehovah's wife as his invisible universal organization.

the mother of christ and of his joint heirs.

enoughisenough

all of this non-sense, mentally gymnastic manipulation of scripture to convince the r and f that JW is God's earthly organization/mother so the R and F willl be obedient to 'mother". I don't recall ever reading of how it all came about until I started questioning "God's earthly organization" and "mother" yesterday and came upon the 1957 WT. Truthlover123-yes, if you understand it right Jesus marries his own mother. God's wife is not only Jesus but the other "sons" destined to heaven. So God is married to his Sons who are also Christ bride. It makes you wonder who thought up this scenario to start with... not anyone who would worship a God of order and not disorder....what made me question the God's earthly organization and mother to start with was a statement made by Robert King-to which I questioned him about it and the bottom line so far from him is that I don't know very much.

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Geoffrey Jackson has a beard now

by Tahoe in

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enoughisenough

It makes sense to me a GB member would grow a beard as an ex. of how a beard should be groomed by the rank and file and also to show support of the "new light".

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the toll of being PIMO

by enoughisenough in

for those of you who are pimo, how do you feel it may be effecting your mental and physical health?

is it easy to pretend to be what you are not?

how do you feel about falsely supporting the pimi which builds them up and therefore an org you don't believe in?

enoughisenough

I am thinking the PIMO can't be themselves...they disown themselves to please others who would despise them if they let it slip what they really think. To some, it is worth doing that...but it would be interesting to know if/ how it effects their mental and physical health. I knew a "brother" who was gay. He was raised a JW. He was disfellowshipped for a while...but got reintated and "played games" with the brothers...He had a boyfriend "bible study" who came to meetings and sat with him. He would tell you there wasn't anything immoral going on ( and maybe there wasn't ) but the boyfriend did write him love letters and send him "gay" cards. I am bringing this up because, he was living a double life, which is what PIMO have to do. He was bi-polar and somewhat schizo. I have to wonder what part of his mental illness was caused from living a double life.

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Essential Beliefs

by LeeMerk in

if the watchtower really wants to move more mainstream they need to take a lesson from evangelicals in the united states.

they seem to say there are "essential beliefs".

a handful of core beliefs that are necessary to be considered true christians.

enoughisenough

Well, now that is an idea...but...from where I sit the only real core belief is the GB is boss ( voice of Jesus ) and you have to obey any core belief they say, even if they change that same core belief in the blink of an eye. Obedience to them is their core belief. So if they were to honestly publsh a core belief it would be...OBEY the GB or else.

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the 144,000 are "swingers"

by enoughisenough in

if you go to the official jw website and look up wt 1957 5/1 pages274-275 you will see the jw teaching.

from paragraph 5:.." paul identifies jehovah's wife as his invisible universal organization.

the mother of christ and of his joint heirs.

enoughisenough

if you go to the official JW website and look up WT 1957 5/1 pages274-275 you will see the JW teaching. From paragraph 5:.." Paul identifies Jehovah's wife as his invisible universal organization. the mother of Christ and of his joint heirs."...From paragraph 6: Jesus as principal child of the mother when the kingdom was born in 1914 . Then she, ( God's wife/invisible universal organization ) gave birth to children on earth in 1919... . " but since these Children of Zion have a heavenly destiny to reign with Christ, they also become part of the universal organization that is God's wife." ///my thoughts: The JW teach they are the earthly organization/mother and that you have to obey your mother ( them as represented by the governing body)-so yeah! People do believe this! But think about what is written in the WT article-they eventually become part of God's invisible universal organization making them God's wife as well! What a stretch! The 144000 thousand are spoken of as Christ's bride and What? The bride takes oh his Jesus Father...I guess they are "swingers".