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Is Jesus God?
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i know that a lot of historical names have claimed to be a god.

but, jesus arguably claimed to be god.

scripture says he's the creator.
enoughisenough

1 Cor 15:27 AMP
For He (the Father) has put all things in subjection under His (Christ’s) feet. But when He says, “All things have been put in subjection [under Christ],” it is clear that He (the Father) who put all things in subjection to Him (Christ) is excepted [since the Father is not in subjection to His own Son].///1 Corinthians 15:28
New American Standard Bible 1995
28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.
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Is Jesus God?
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i know that a lot of historical names have claimed to be a god.

but, jesus arguably claimed to be god.

scripture says he's the creator.
enoughisenough

I never once read in the Bible where Jesus claimed to be God...I did read he came in his Father's name, to do his Father's will.
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Depression & Isolation
by TxNVSue2023 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i've been recently reinstated & am very happy about it.

i do love righteous (love & justice) and i do hate wickedness ( selfishness & sin).

i do love jehovah and the bible truths & wisdom.
enoughisenough

Teddnzo, must be different for some, because I am just sure I would have had to pretend I supported the lies...
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JW profit from disasters
by enoughisenough in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
some time back i questioned about jw making money from doing relief work for disasters.

i found this story on reddit and also noted some of the replies.

it makes me wonder how many would have left their own jobs and paid their way, giving free labor and some supplying free materials if they had know what was going on behind the scenes.
enoughisenough

ThomasMore, if you are inclined to share, I would be interested in your story of "first hand how horroble it all was"
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Is Jesus God?
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i know that a lot of historical names have claimed to be a god.

but, jesus arguably claimed to be god.

scripture says he's the creator.
enoughisenough

I was listening to a Bible and History scholar today and he said the translator of Genisis got it wrong where it said In the beginning God created.....he said the word translated God was plural so should have been rendered, in the beginning Gods created....this made sense to me because later on we read , let us create man in OUR image. So there was more than one creating. Prov 8:30 speaks of a master worker with God that God possessed at the beginning of his way (Prov 8:22) I think it correct to consider Jesus a God, just as the Bible says there are many gods and many lords, but Jesus himself said he was God's Son and he didn't do anything of his own initiative, but did his Father's Will.
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I have some questions about the Org.!
by KerryKing in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
are any or all of the gb from jewish descent?.

why are they so fascinated with following ancient jewish 'principles' ?.

isa 43:10, 44:8 ' you are my witnesses ' which they based their religious identity on, jehovah's witnesses, yet those verses address the jews, not christians, which they profess to be.. jesus said in ac 1:8 'you will be witnesses of me ', .
enoughisenough

I agree there is something sinister about the org. When they can get up and plainly show they are following the world while condemning r/f for having "worldly" friends or sharing in events with their " worldly " families and blame almighty God for every false hood they have published.( because he didn't reveal the whole truth to them at once )..that is just evil. Not to mention, they literally promote hatred and judging. ( it's so plain to see once you get out!)
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The elders conspire to discredit an innocent father as a paedophile, rapist and homosexual.
by gavindlt in
1. jw
2. experiences
https://youtu.be/rccvthjm5ae?si=c88xtpen8l8rxdl-.

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https://www.dadseekingtruth.com/.
enoughisenough

takes creativity and effort to put all that together.
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Depression & Isolation
by TxNVSue2023 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i've been recently reinstated & am very happy about it.

i do love righteous (love & justice) and i do hate wickedness ( selfishness & sin).

i do love jehovah and the bible truths & wisdom.
enoughisenough

I had this thought: if you have to pretend to be something you are not in order to have friends, you are putting yourself out there to use and to be used...so when that happens, what right do you have to cry the blues. It truly is sad people feel they need to do this...such is the life Of PIMO. They know their friends and family would drown them in a teaspoon of water in the name of love for their god ( GB ) No wonder there is so much depression among the JW
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JW-God's channel of communication
by enoughisenough in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the faithful slave is considered god's channel of communication.

( though not inspired of god ) does anyone else find the use of the word channel interesting in this regard?

from where i am sitting it denotes spiritism.
enoughisenough

truthlover 123 Johannes Greber New Testament translation was an influance in the NWT. His wife was a spirit medium and she helped him in some areas of the translation...Widipedia :In 1923, he attended a séance and his life was changed. He renounced his vows and left the Catholic church. He emigrated to the USA in 1929 and began a nondenominational church, with prayer and healing sessions in Teaneck, NJ. He later worked on a translation of the New Testament, publishing ‘’The New Testament, A New Translation and Explanation Based on the Oldest Manuscripts’’ (1935). He claimed using the oldest sources available including the Greek codex D. Where a meaning was not clear, according to his prologue, he received supernatural guidance as he translated, after much time in prayer, with his wife acting as a medium, and with visions of the actual words given to him on occasion. “In the rare instances in which a text pronounced correct by the divine spirits can be found in none of the manuscripts available today, I have the text as given by the spirits.”[1]
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JW-God's channel of communication
by enoughisenough in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the faithful slave is considered god's channel of communication.

( though not inspired of god ) does anyone else find the use of the word channel interesting in this regard?

from where i am sitting it denotes spiritism.
enoughisenough

The faithful slave is considered God's channel of communication. ( though not inspired of God ) Does anyone else find the use of the word channel interesting in this regard? From where I am sitting it denotes spiritism. It seems they are hiding what they really are in plan sight. Note definition:What is the meaning of Channelling?
the practice of professedly entering a meditative or trancelike state in order to convey messages from a spiritual guide.
Not too long ago I posted about a bethelite who was channelling art/characters.

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New American Standard Bible 1995