Putting this under beliefs,doctrine and practices because I don't see a better heading. Here is what i have been thinking for years now and the situation with the recent storms and the devastation brings in closer to home in my thinking. I lived in Western NC for 20 years and moved to WV in Feb of this year. I have been glued to my computer watching the horrendous damage the storm has done. Western NC isn't to be traveled in right because of the conditions of the roads. Millions without power. Some people are stranded....Whole communities destroyed. So what does this have to do with the stupidity of JW r/f? We have all heard the stories of some who would say how they were going to live in this or that nice home after the GT and battle of A. Well, that is just stupid reasoning, When you see the damage a cat 4 hurricane does, do they really think the homes and intrastructure will be left to salvage? But the stupidity gets worse. They buy into the Ramapo construction. They send their donations and some provide free labor to build this "movie studio" because by some miracle it is going to survive Armageddon, AND the videos will be used to educate the resurrected ones. ( oh, and at the same time, this is the last of the last of the last day, so they set out to build a complex that will cost millions and take years.) Where are the heads of the r/f JW? They don't seem to see the oxymoron of this whole thing. Now, if Jesus has power to resurrect the dead, does he really need JW videos to educate them? The JW org plays out that he does and I guess some buy into it. I never did. It makes no sense at all. ( I do have a thought about what/why the studio is being built, but some would think me a crazy conspiracy theorist (( some already do )) NOTE: for those who complain about the lack of paragraph form...I can't seem to do it on this device. I made the endeavor, so take it or leave it.
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rant about the stupidty of JW r/f
by enoughisenough inputting this under beliefs,doctrine and practices because i don't see a better heading.
here is what i have been thinking for years now and the situation with the recent storms and the devastation brings in closer to home in my thinking.
i lived in western nc for 20 years and moved to wv in feb of this year.
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Ages of each user here?
by ukpimo ini'm interested to know the age demographics here.
it must be significantly different to other exjw forums.
it would be a damning report for watchtower if most of us appear to have left for decades.. you don't have to mention your exact age, you could always say "in my 50s".. i am in my 70s.
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I was 16 when I was baptized in a horse trough at an assembly held in a national guard armory... I always wondered why it was ok to have the assembly in such a building ...felt like it supported military. .I woke up after 50 years and I dissassociated. I am 69 Their lies about the jabs is what was proof for me that it wasn't just human mistakes that I had used to excuse their ever changing stories. I recently saw a quote to this effect: truth that changes isn't truth; it is opinion.
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entertaining and spot on video ...must have been written by one time elders who knew the process.
by enoughisenough inthey are naming it differently now, but we know the leopard isn't changing it's spots.
so this video presents judicial meetings like they are the mob and the background music fit nicely with the narrative.
enjohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9vtnvzlvew.
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They are naming it differently now, but we know the leopard isn't changing it's spots. So this video presents Judicial meetings like they are the MOB and the background music fit nicely with the narrative. Enjohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9vTNVzlVEw
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unbaptized boy having priority over women
by enoughisenough ini was thinking about the male children ( even unbaptized ) being placed ahead of the sisters.
; and i thought the jw were raising a bunch of misogynist.
would these kids not feel more important than their mothers let alone other women.
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a thought I had: a boy is chosen over the mother who raised him...if he has good conduct, wasn't that likely due to ( in case of a single mother) a woman's instruction? And how is this chosen boy to get to the meetings a bit earlier ( in some cases his mother ) And what sensible man is going to think his boy is more capable than his wife? If you really think about it, it is all horrid, but the sheeple will just be so proud to be the parent of a boy who may be selected. ( if they were smart, they wouldn't give permission, but then if they were smart, they would wake up to the nonsense spewed out by their 9 headed god.)
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Trump assassination attempt??
by Diogenesister init happened at a rally in pennsylvania, apparently.
he seems ok i've seen a photo of him bleeding from his ear.
this is absolutely nutso....if it's too it doesn't surprise me the way they constantly describe him as "far right" and that his supporters are "maga republicans".
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excuse me, but how does one get around "put Trump in the bullseye" not mean for someone to kill him? What does one think of when the term bullseye is used? He certainly didn't mean it literally. It doesn't mean they should focus on Trump as an opponent-that was already happening. I personally believe it to be a preconceived "code" for to execute a tentative plan that was in place. Then, they can play innocent and say there is never any call for violence-but put Trump in the bullseye was literally a call for violence against him ....IMO
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Members of congregation know it’s not true
by Mikejw inwe have lonely old folks and even some not so old.. they know the gb are not who they claim to be.. but they stay in the congregation because they are lonely.
i wonder what percentage of jws this is the case, i would guess a lot.
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Rattigan, are you kidding us? since you asked, the GB claim to be substitutes for Christ and the Voice of Christ.
They claim they are the way to truth and life and if you aren't in with them, then you can't get to know God. All of this is hubris to say the least. Jesus said, he was the way, the truth, and the life and no one comes to the Father except through him (JESUS) and not the lying GB. What they teach of themselves is really in direct conflict with Jesus words. Anyone who reads the Bible and thinks for themselves will get to see through the WT fog and foolery.
What to do with staying in the congregation: The people are fooled and believe the lies. They think they can't know about God or know truth or get to live without their 9 headed god.
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JW Leaders Do Intentionally Torture Their Members
by FragrantAddendum inthat's one of the reasons they're being shut down.
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notformer, I never thought of your angle about them finding enjoyment in regard to the suffering they cause others, but now that you have drawn attention to that possibliity, I think you are correct. They like to point out how others have been faithful to Jehovah in regards to certains things when it wasn't something Jehovah ever required to start with, even though the rank and file may have suffered physically , emotionally, or economically. They use these one as good examples to shame the others in the congregation who aren't following suit.
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unbaptized boy having priority over women
by enoughisenough ini was thinking about the male children ( even unbaptized ) being placed ahead of the sisters.
; and i thought the jw were raising a bunch of misogynist.
would these kids not feel more important than their mothers let alone other women.
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Hellothere, when in, I used to think how well off all JW would be if everything was sold and the money evenly divided
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unbaptized boy having priority over women
by enoughisenough ini was thinking about the male children ( even unbaptized ) being placed ahead of the sisters.
; and i thought the jw were raising a bunch of misogynist.
would these kids not feel more important than their mothers let alone other women.
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First Tim 2:12 is where, Paul wrote ( some have concluded Paul didn't write that book ) " I do not permit ( allow, suffer ) women to teach...exercise authority over men......
I find this interesting because He writes " I."...in the old testament women were prophetess and judges. Were they not teaching and having authority? If God didn't change, what's up? When Paul was writng to Timothy, was that just his opinion? In 1 Cor 7: 8,9,10 he gives marital advice, some of which is his own opinion, even writing he basically had no need of women.
Ps 68:11 women telling good news a large army. ( What? are they not also speaking to/teaching men? ) ( so you think, yes, but not in congregations --but they met in people's homes. So if a women is teaching several in a Home bible study, could one not conclude she is teaching a congregation? I had another thought about women not teaching in the congregation: they actually do/have done it indirectly: their school assignments teach others good or bad by example. If their husband's talk wasn't specially outline, it was often the wife who did the reseach and wrote up the talk for the husband or their sons. Barbara Anderson was a researcher for the writers of the WT...so was she really not an indirect teacher in the congregation?
If one took Paul's words to timothy at full value, a women would keep her mouth shut and net even comment at meetings. And she would ask her husband things she wanted clarified which isn't so likely as often the women are intelligent enough to get it even when the men don't.
another thought: if women were to be silent in the congregations, wouldn't that rule out singing praises to God?
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unbaptized boy having priority over women
by enoughisenough ini was thinking about the male children ( even unbaptized ) being placed ahead of the sisters.
; and i thought the jw were raising a bunch of misogynist.
would these kids not feel more important than their mothers let alone other women.
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Whereas the Bible does say women are to be silent in the congregation, does that give cause for boys to rank higher than women? The Bible talks about Jesus being with his earthly family and being in subjection to them. Yep, in some countries, the swine are treated better than the women.