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  Disfellowhipped for not wearing facemask?

  by Anna Marina in

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  2. beliefs

  yup - person has done nothing wrong.

  but they have called a judicial and from what i can tell refusing to wear a facemask is bothering them more than the person not turning up.. so is this new light?

  if you have been called to a judical please remember to stay safe and wear your personal protective equimpment.

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  Drearyweather

  Anna Marina,

  Something in the story is not adding up.

  So you said that this person has been questioning the WT doctrine for many years, doesn't want to listen to the elders, and doesn't want to come to a judicial committee. Then why is he still a JW? Why has he not disassociated himself yet?

  If he's worried about people shunning him or losing his family, then why is he openly doing things that can risk his expulsion?

  What does he actually want?

  You can't be a JW and question their doctrine, and still expect to remain a JW, without any repercussions.

  Also, he needs to remember that elders are not the ones who have framed the WT policies. They are simply security guards with handguns who are authorized to shoot you down if you are found suspicious.
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  Disfellowhipped for not wearing facemask?

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yup - person has done nothing wrong.

  but they have called a judicial and from what i can tell refusing to wear a facemask is bothering them more than the person not turning up.. so is this new light?

  if you have been called to a judical please remember to stay safe and wear your personal protective equimpment.

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  Drearyweather

  I hope this is just a joke.

  No in-person judicial committees are held during this pandemic, only on Zoom that too only if the branch approves it.
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  Why don’t couples have to remarry when becoming JWs?

  by enigma1863 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you have to get baptized even if you were baptized in several other religions so why don’t they require you to remarry your spouse, especially if you were married as a mormon or muslim and had multiple wives.

  some countries legally allow polygamy so you couldn’t necessarily just go by the laws of the country right?

  these problems probably never come up though because i bet not many flds or muslims become jws.

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  Drearyweather

  You need to be legally married before getting baptised as a JW. My uncle and aunty became JW's when they were in their 60's. Before heir baptism, they had to go to the government office to have their marriage registered legally. They were married as Roman Catholics, but had not registered.
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  jehober "always'" protects his 'loyal servants'?

  by eyeuse2badub in

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  2. beliefs

  last week i watched the docuseries on prime video called “the last narc”.

  it was mainly about the notorious mexican guadalajara drug cartel during the 70’s and 80’s and a united states dea agent, kiki camerena, who was kidnapped, tortured, and murdered in guadalajara, mexico in 1984. this is a very well-known and haunting event here in the usa.. however, there was also about a 7-8 minute segment during the docuseries that graphically detailed the kidnapping, rape, and murder of 4 jehovah’s witnesses that also took place just days before kiki camerena was taken.

  the jw’s were 2 married couples, us citizens, dennis and rose carlson, ben and pat mascarenas.

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  Drearyweather

  This is not a current dilemma.

  In the first century, Herod Agrippa was able to kill James, but when he imprisoned Peter, an angel saved him.
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  "JW Box" $30 Logo Markup Scam!!!! Huge!!!

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so get this, wt has something they're calling a "jw box" that gives people in africa "spiritual food".

  the best part, they want donations of $75 for it!

  so they don't provide any physical food to people in africa but they can send them "spiritual food" for $75.

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  Drearyweather

  err--wont the users need electricity ?...and be on the internet ?

  The branch loads usb sticks with videos and content and sends it to the congregation, who then load it to the jw box, which the publishers connect and download into their devices.

  It works as a normal device and can be charged through usb, adapter or power bank.
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  "JW Box" $30 Logo Markup Scam!!!! Huge!!!

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so get this, wt has something they're calling a "jw box" that gives people in africa "spiritual food".

  the best part, they want donations of $75 for it!

  so they don't provide any physical food to people in africa but they can send them "spiritual food" for $75.

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  Drearyweather

  The best part, they want donations of $75 for it!

  Can you send the source for this where they have asked people to donate $75 for it?

  Turns out, you can buy the same exact thing on Amazon for $45!!!

  Have you tried checking if Amazon delivers it to those areas in Africa?

  Also, the article on jw.org clearly says that the router is purchased from a commercial firm
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  Worldwide preaching campaign targeting government officials.

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does anybody know what this message will contain ?

  is it designed to provoke a response that will bring persecution on the religion ?

  or is it just going to be some meaningless weak campaign to get the rank and file all excited about it and achieving nothing.. or is it going to suggest to the government officials that this mob could very well be the next jonestown /wacol incident and we need to act now.

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  Or is it going to suggest to the Government Officials that this mob could very well be the next Jonestown /Wacol incident and we need to act now.?

  With all the construction projects planned for the next decade, it is unlikely that a Jonestown scenario will ever come. JW's have three important things to survive:

  1. millions of free volunteer members2. Pristine real estate (even though they are selling KH's, they are buying a lot of new properties that are not reported in public)3. Full support of the US government
  Pull any one of the three, and things may start crumbling.
  
  
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  The Spiritual Food Box!

  by Atlantis in

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  the spiritual food box.. .

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/series/how-your-donations-are-used/a-small-box-that-delivers-spiritual-food/.

  petra!.

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  Drearyweather

  According to a friend from Bethel, the boxes were given free of charge to the congregations.
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  Where have the NWT Bible changed verses to fit their theology ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  2. bible

  i can think of two to start off with .

  john 1:1 and luke 23:43 ,what others can you come up with ?.

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  wt version: it is people that happened to be in the cemetery that saw the resurrected holy ones and went into Jerusalem to be visible there.

  not sure if this is what the WT teaches
  
  
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  Secret witnesses, wiretaps and banned literature

  by Fadeaway1962 in

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  https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/secret-witnesses-wiretaps-and-banned-literature-how-russian-law-enforcement-prosecutes-jehovahs-witnesses/ .

  shame for those in prison, .

  where were the angels and the holy spirit to protect them like in the past ?

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  Drearyweather

  "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

  Let's hope that our hatred for JW's don't persuade us to support what Russia is doing.