I think you can spin any statistics to any conclusion that you want. If the numbers increase then they are fake and if they decrease then the WT is dying.
Drearyweather
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2023 Yearly Report UNDER the Microscope
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/pi7sn2rnrke?si=lnvklqct6nuayv2q.
branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 85 (= down one from 86 from the previous year and quite possibly they are referring to the hong kong bethel that closed down recently).
number of lands reporting: 239 ( =the same as 2022).
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Did God know adam and eve would sin?
by gavindlt into all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..
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Drearyweather
if you're absolutely perfect and absolutely in the good side, not even ever are you gonna be tempted about going to the dark side.
Angels are not absolutely perfect. If you are a created being - then you can be perfect only in a relative sense.
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Has there been a change in how society counts publishers?
by Hellothere injust made a fast check on yearly watchtower report.
bulgaria numbers 2022 was +1.
for 2023 they + 4. uruguay for 2022.
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Drearyweather
’m sure the new way of counting will give a boost to the numbers
Why will it boost the numbers?
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Did God know adam and eve would sin?
by gavindlt into all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..
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Drearyweather
I'm not sure that's a good analogy. Putting aside that God created the hotel, all the rooms, and the content of each room, if He found Himself on the outside of this "room", how does He know its the right room to look into, or even pass by? Who or what is labeling the rooms for God?
So are you saying that God is like an author who already knows what happens to each character of the story? If yes, where does the concept of free will come in?
Whatever state that was, why is it "perfect" and not just "very good"?
Maybe because someone with sin can be "very good", but not perfect?
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Did God know adam and eve would sin?
by gavindlt into all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..
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Drearyweather
How can God choose what not to know without first knowing it in order to make the choice?
I think its more about the ability to know. Like having the key to someone's hotel room, but choosing not to use it to see whats happening inside the room.
Where does the Bible say Adam and Eve were created perfect?
Its more or less concluded from Paul's passages in Romans Chapter 5, where he states how sin entered the world through Adam's disobedience and death through it, and how Jesus' act of justification can mean everlasting life for all. This alludes to the point that there was a time when there was no sin, (means perfection - relative, not absolute) and hence no death.
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Can't the "slave" make up its mind?
by BoogerMan inw54 4/1 p. 222 par.
27 - 1919. w63 4/1 p. 202 par.
5 - 1919. w65 7/1 p. 393 par.
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Drearyweather
Not sure if you are reading the articles right or just isolating paragraphs from multiple watchtowers. The JW's see two fulfillments in all prophecies from Isaiah and this teaching has at least remained consistent since 1954.
First Fulfillment:
The nation was Israel (physical Israel) was born in the Sinai wilderness and was crushed in 607 when Babylonians destroyed Jerusalem. In fulfillment of Isaiah 66:8, the nation was reborn in 537 BCE when King Cyrus released the Jews and the worship in Jerusalem began.
Larger fulfillment:
In the modern day, the new nation (spiritual Israel) was born in 33 CE during the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, when the Jews were rejected and the Christian congregation became the new spiritual Israel. However, it was overpowered by the "weeds" of Christendom and was reborn in 1919 when the anointed was released from Babylonian captivity.
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Dumbing Down?
by LostintheFog1999 inomg!.
have you seen the latest wt society's way of engaging with their audience?
cartoon bible stories.
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Drearyweather
This is not a new release. It was released 10 years back in 2013 as a set of 25 Illustrated Bible Stories for JW children. On the website its under the section Children, placed along with other Caleb and Sophia videos.
A letter accompanied this release encouraging JW parents to study these with their children during their Family worship sessions. My congregation's elders printed out these comic stories, spiral binded them and gave it each family head which had children.
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the slaves might be revolting
by pepperheart2 inon the watchtower website it says that most of the work that will be done fishkill will be out sourced to non jws .i thought that jws always used to build everything them selves.
this might explain what happend to ramapo they put an appeal out for free labour and people said no .
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Drearyweather
Outside contractors have always been used in WT construction projects, even in Warwick.
At least in India, all the bethel facilities and Kingdom halls in the past 35 years have been built by outside contractors with the interiors done by JW's. This was because of the local prevailing laws.
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NWPublisher app
by Rattigan350 ini heard on the meeting about apps called nwpublisher and cartsmart.
new world publisher (nw publisher) is a free apple ios and google android app created by jehovah’s witnesses for jehovah’s witnesses.
congregation publishers can install new world publisher on their mobile devices and be more united and connected with their congregation.. cartsmart was built to streamline the way we schedule our public witnessing shifts.
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Drearyweather
Its an app created by a team of JW's, but not affiliated with the organization itself. Many congregation elders use it as it makes it easy to create schedules tabulate reports and manage territory records. I have used it myself and have encouraged many congregations to do so.
Jehovah help us all. This religion is not what we've grown up in is totally unrecognizable.
why? You preferred the old way of using paper records and excel sheets to do the work? If you have younger elders, they would obviously prefer this app over paper records.
I have uninstalled this app, unless someone knows some ids and pins?
These ID's and pins would be available only if your elders decided to use the app for your congregation. My congregation BOE uses this app and had sent the ID's and PINs to congregation members to join in the app. When I was the secretary, the app saved 90% of my time as it auto-generated student assignments based on the assigment history and generated slips and automatically sent it to the student's whatsapp and email ID's.
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New Educational Center in Brazil and New Support Center of JW's in New York
by Drearyweather inrecent news on the jw website:.
town of fishkill, new york, u.s.a., gives approval for new support center of jehovah’s witnesses (jw.org).
on october 27, 2023, site plan approval was granted for new construction at the bethel facilities in the town of fishkill, new york, u.s.a. this approval from the town planning board means that work on the new fishkill support center of jehovah’s witnesses can begin immediately.
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Drearyweather
They're laying off Bethelites.
Not sure. In 2022, globally they had 1,000 more bethelites than in 2021.
So they're building another complex besides the movie studio??!!!
Yes, based on what I know from a Bethelite friend, they have purchased 2 more properties the size of Warwick in the US. Also, each country will have its own Patterson style educational centre (separate from the country's Bethel), like the one they recently constructed in Brazil. All schools will be conducted in these centres and students will stay in that property and not in the residential homes of JW's.
While we see a lot of KH selling going on in the US, on the other side a lot of property is also being purchased in the US and around the world. Its not an American religion anymore, so no need to have everything in the US. If the HQ in the US collapses, the work will continue from elsewhere.