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  How Are Ex Elders Treated In The Congregation?

  by minimus in

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  are they pretty much left alone?

  are they respected for their having been elders at one time?

  are they treated like crap?.

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  Most ex-elders are treated the way they themselves used to treat others while being elders
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  Help! Mike & Kim videos all being deleted by Youtube

  by mrmagic in

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  2. scandals

  due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.

  can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?

  would hate to lose all those good videos!

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  Mike and Kim are, as a whole, expressing their disagreement with WT behavior and teaching. They use WT material to demonstrate their point

  Yes. But they need to do this lawfully, i.e. without infringing on any copyright laws.
  
  
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  Question for SBF

  by Fisherman in

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  2. beliefs

  slimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.

  can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?

  - this thread is your if you want it..

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  In 1914, 1917-18 and 1925, WT faced crisis due to doctrinal reasons and power struggles, with more than half of the WT HQ directors purged, many prominent and true believers leaving the fold, branch office managers becoming apostate, etc. However, as said above, they had their business and money to fall back on. They survived that debacle because of money and not because of their members.

  Now, WT may have problems with money, but they have a core group of believers who will not leave no matter what. No high level defections have happened in the recent decades. Normal JW's are not dependent on the WT for their daily financial and family needs. Hence, even if the WT stops printing and publishing altogether, publishers will still go on preaching as usual with whatever they have and whatever WT gives them. JW's dont have any problems whatsoever to simply go to the door and ask the householder to download things from jw.org.

  So the WT is doing what any organization will do. If they have stopped their publishing business, it makes no sense in having huge printeries and printery staff. Cut back and downsizing is the best way. But all of this would not make much difference to a normal JW. It is just the matter of changing his presentation style during his field service. Instead of a physical book, he will have to show things from his tablet or smart phone. Most JW's have already transitioned to this style of witnessing.
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  Question for SBF

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  slimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.

  can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?

  - this thread is your if you want it..

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  One of the very first downsizing happened in 1915, if not earlier.

  In 1915, seventy members of the Bethel family in New York were informed that because of a lack of funds, they would have to leave Bethel to continue their service in the field. They were told: “We must not involve ourselves in debt nor jeopardize the work in general; hence the decision for the reduction of the expenses along every line.”

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/302015030
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  Question for SBF

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  slimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.

  can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?

  - this thread is your if you want it..

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  SBF,

  you will need to keep your stats ready to incorporate the cutbacks that will be announced at the upcoming Annual meeting on October 7.
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  Question for SBF

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  slimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.

  can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?

  - this thread is your if you want it..

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  Looking at the cutbacks and predicting the end of Watchtower is like looking at the natural disasters happening around and predicting the end of the world.

  JW's hear about earthquakes and hurricanes and start thinking that the end of the world is near. Ex-Jw's look at the yearbook stats and predict that the end of WT is near.

  The greatest asset that WT has is believers. No matter what happens, no matter how many fade away, a core group of strong and true believers will always be there to prevent the org from collapsing.
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  New Letter CONG-E: 2018 Memorial and Special Talk

  by Edison Trent in

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  a friend sent me a new letter, that should be read to the congregation:.

  september 18, 2017. to all congregations.

  re: 2018 memorial and special talk.

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  Drearyweather

  Shouldn`t the talk really be titled W.T.F. has Jesus Christ been doing for the past 103 years since he has supposedly been ruling from 1914 till now ?

  JW's have already answered this question:

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20140115/100-years-kingdom-rule/

  
  
  
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  2017 Kingdom Hall in Chile with Flag with Meeting

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  2. friends

  finally, after 5 years, we have received footage that shows, unmistakably, that there was a flag in the kingdom hall, while a meeting was happening.here is the video:https://youtu.be/uel3otw6gemi will post this year's pictures below.

  this year we had pictures and video of three different kingdom halls with the flag!.

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  Drearyweather

  
  

  As employees, JW's are allowed to raise and lower the flag on public buildings (offices, schools, etc) where they work if no ceremony is accompanied with it.

  
  
  
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  Free to sin but still cannot bring myself to do it

  by sinboi in

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  2. experiences

  have da'd myself nearly 3 months ago.

  now i am part of this world but i feel myself the odd one out.

  something inside me is still blocking me to do the things i have been longing to do while i was still a jw, such as attending birthday parties, sex, etc.... just last nite, i was on the way to attend a birthday party.

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  Drearyweather

  I don't want to see how he kill babies at armeggedon!!! evil d.o.g!

  You don't have to wait till Armageddon.

  Just go to the internet and see how many abortions take place each year in the name of "unwanted pregnancies". Reported vs Non-reported. Actual killing of human life..err..sorry...Medical Termination of Pregnancy.

  Funnily, you will find people who will condemn the killings mentioned in the Bible but condone the abortions taking place. People can justify anything for their own benefit and cause.
  
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  John 1:3

  by Hi y-all in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  john 1:3 states in the nwt, "all things came into existence through him, and apart from him (the word, or jesus) not even one thing came into existence.".

  the wt states apart from him one thing came into existence, that is, jesus the first created being.. is there an explanation for this apparent contradiction?.

  thanks!.

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  Drearyweather

  Maybe this would be simpler to understand:

  New Living Translation
  God created everything through him, and nothing was created except through him.