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  JWs + Chronic Illness

  by Cimarrona in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i once asked my dad why, with all the power the wt insists on having so much control over its adherents' lives, they don't provide information about healthy eating habits or, like the adventists, wilderness training.

  i mean, the gb encourage people to remain poor, and poverty is known to correlate with health outcomes, particularly those that are diet related.

  i'd say most witnesses i knew over the age of 40 were overweight, had high blood pressure, heart problems, gastrointestinal issues, one kind of cancer or another (no doubt a result of eating their feelings if you ask me).

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  Why weren't resources provided to help them better their health

  Some articles that are available in their publications:

  Ways to Improve Your Health
  

  Do I Have An Eating Disorder

  Nutritious Foods Within Your Reach
  

  
  
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  How do they get away with "New Light"?

  by moreconfusedthanever in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one thing that bothers me greatly is the fact that they can change their policies and beliefs and just say its "new light" and no one bats an eyelid.. there are many scriptures such as isaiah 40:8 "the word of god will last to time indefinite.

  " or hebrews 6:18 "it is impossible for god to lie".

  if he is "spirit directing" the borg then there should be no need for new light..

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  they can change their policies and beliefs and just say its "new light" and no one bats an eyelid.

  Have they actually used the term "New Light" in their official publications?
  
  
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  The Key Text on JW.Org Leaves Out The Most Important Part!

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  perhaps the one scripture most often quoted by jws is matthew 24:14: "this good news of the kingdomwill be preached in all the inhabited earth and then the end will come.

  " even after decades away from the kingdom hall, i can still rattle off that verse.

  i daresay all 8-plus million "active" jws can also recite it, plus the untold millions who have left or become inactive across the decades.. it is among the top cornerstone texts used in jw communications.. but now there's a significant shift in the use of that text: jws often focused heavily on the part of the scripture about the end coming.

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  Matt 24:14 is used as caption to the picture used on the home page and hence only that part of the entire verse which is relevant to the picture and which makes the point is used. That is what we call as use of partial quotes.

  This was done by Russel too in the 1900's. The front page of the Watchtower only used some part of Isaiah 21:11,12 to point out the use of a Watchtower. "Watchman, What of the night? The Morning Cometh and a Night Also!"

  Most of us do that. No one would use an entire sentence or a verse as a caption to an image. That's where a fair use of partial quotes come to use.
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  Don't expect any more downsizing announcements at annual meetibg

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  expect a day of fluff, more bells and whistles and boasting.

  they are not going to throw shade on their glorious day.

  but shortly thereafter when everyone's feeling good about themselves expect the hammer to come down during a morning worship broadcast..

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  Don't expect any more downsizing announcements at annual meetibg

  Maybe you will have to wait for the letter that will be read to the congregations following the annual meeting.

  Has it been leaked here yet? Letter dated 7th October 2017.: Re: Annual Meeting Announcements?
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  Illogicality of preaching

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not all scripture is god-breathed.

  there are verses that also dishonor god.

  for example, subject of preaching seems to be too illogical even though it is the very basis of many sects [especially of jw organization which defines itself as the preaching organization].

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  It is like Obama saying in 2007

  A Christian will not compare Jesus with Obama. There is more than a billion people who believe the Jesus is God and hence believe that he can work wonders. Obama didnt raise the dead, stop a storm or walked on water. If Jesus was a mere imperfect human, then you are right. But if he was a son of God, then things change. So its up to you to believe.

  But it is obvious that he did not say.

  I don't know how you came to this conclusion.
  
  
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  Is there anything good JWs taught you still benefit from?

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some years ago, i attended a jw wedding.

  marriage speaker said something which changed my life for the better, and it helps me even now.

  he told the couple: “the very make up of man and woman is such that conflicts can often arise between you.

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  If you go to college, by the way, you learn public speaking as well.

  But many who never had the opportunity to go to college learned it as JW's. For e.g. My parents
  
  
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  Debating a Christian at work.

  by pseudoxristos in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a christian at work has been after me for more than a year to go to his church and be saved.

  i like the guy and consider him a friend and have been politely trying to avoid the subject.

  i have recently decided that enough is enough and i told him i would discuss religion with him.

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  Finally the Sun is created on the fourth day!

  The issue here is most Christians believe that all planets, sun, moon, stars etc were created on the frist day itself. Gen 1:1: God created the heavens and the earth. Everything else apart from the earth can be included in the term heavens.

  Gen 1:3: Light from the already existing sun now penetrated to the earth through the cloud layers, even though the source of this light was not seen. Mostly like opening the window curtains and letting the light from the sun come in.

  Gen 1:14-16, Here the hebrew word ʽa·sahʹ is used which means 'make' and not create ('bara'). So God did not create the sun and the moon, but rather made them discernible to humans from the earth in a way that they could observe their movements and understand climatic patterns.
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  Special event this weekend

  by TweetieBird in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  was talking with a family member today and they said that there is something special going on at the kh this weekend.

  any idea what it is?

  they said that some kind of broadcast from bethel for everyone..

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  It is special because it also will host the dedication of the new world headquarters.
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  Illogicality of preaching

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not all scripture is god-breathed.

  there are verses that also dishonor god.

  for example, subject of preaching seems to be too illogical even though it is the very basis of many sects [especially of jw organization which defines itself as the preaching organization].

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  God-breathed scriptures are those which are prima facie true—like Mathew 5:44-48. They need no interpretation like saying ‘the whole is greater than its part”

  But that doesn’t work that way. If we don’t understand something, we dig deeper, we don’t discard it as unreasonable. This is true in all walks of life.

  Fear evoked in verses such as Mathew 10:28, 33; Ezekiel 3:18 is morbid fear, not healthy fear as you feel.

  Ez 3:18: The scriptures are warnings. The impact is though morbid. Warning someone that he will be charred to death if he touches the electricity wire is not invoking morbid fear. I’m still not sure how Mathew 10:28,33 invokes morbid fear.

  Governments asking for valid documents is not a valid comparison with Mathew 10:32, 33.

  The whole crux of Christianity is following Jesus. The whole crux of being a citizen is to follow the rules of the government. The whole crux of being a human being is to not harm others and be human. If you decide to believe the Bible then you follow Jesus. Bible is not an academic book, it’s a religious book that dictates a law that is a constitution to its believers. Dissecting a constitution leads nowhere. You either follow it or you don't. And you are clearly made aware of its consequences.

  If one knows what to do, then it is up to him—he may or may not do it. Others have nothing to do with his decision.

  A sane human knows that killing others is wrong. But if he still does it, someone needs to stop him. That is why we have the whole concept of rehab centres. And that’s why we have the police force to stop people in doing what is wrong.

  “No one has ascended into heaven except him.”How can he say this in the beginning of his ministry—he ascended into heaven in the end of his ministry.

  Remember that the Bible says the Jesus was an angel in heaven in his pre-form. Like all other angels, Jesus too came on earth to give messages. As a human now, only Jesus was the one who had in his earlier days, ascended and descended to heaven. No other human had had an angelic form earlier and had ascended to heaven and had a glimpse of God or communicated with God. Neither did any other angel came down to earth and lived as a human from its birth like Jesus. Only Jesus fits that category. Only he was the human being who was also an angel earlier and had the work of ascending and descending into heaven.

  Try this verse as a sample, and you will find many verses falling into this category.

  This whole idea is known as isolating verses without understanding its context.

  Chopping someone’s hand is wrong and a crime. But a doctor amputating a gangrene infected hand is not wrong. He is not contradicting reasonable human laws.

  The law of gravity states that every object in air falls down to the earth. However, a child’s helium balloon going up in the air is not contradicting the idea of gravity. More understating of science is behind it.

  Two ideas that seems contradictory prima facie need not be contradictory. Hence, there is a need to understand the context of the scripture.
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  Illogicality of preaching

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not all scripture is god-breathed.

  there are verses that also dishonor god.

  for example, subject of preaching seems to be too illogical even though it is the very basis of many sects [especially of jw organization which defines itself as the preaching organization].

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  Not all Scripture is God-breathed.

  Since you say "Not All", do you have a list or do you know which scriptures are God breathed?
  

  because what is done out of fear is mechanical and is also as good as nothing being done.

  Do you believe in the concept of healthy fear? i.e. fear of being killed if you drink and drive, fear of losing your child to bad influences if not trained properly? Do you believe that the word 'fear' is always wrong?

  ‘If you do this we will do that for you’ which is a worldly attitude

  Is asking someone to do something for something in return wrong? For e.g. to stay as a resident, you need to have all valid documents. Is the government wrong in demanding this? Is a Father wrong in telling his son, "If you need to stay in this house, you need to stop using drugs"

  Result-wise too preaching is unnecessary as it accomplishes nothing because everyone already knows what is right and wrong. For example, people are quick to notice the wrong when it is committed by others

  Is knowing what is right and what is wrong enough? or doing what is right and not doing what is wrong the main thing?

  all of which are obviously the product of human thinking
  

  Scriptures are from God, its incorrect interpretation is a product of human thinking.