Posts by Drearyweather

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JWs don’t break up families

by Jules Saturn in

i get very angry when i hear this claim being made by jws and get even angrier when i read the article they have on their faq section on jw.org which i’ll leave a link here:.

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/families/.

i know that the majority of this article is written about having a spouse that isn’t a believer and how the bible encourages them to stay together but that’s one of the things that can cause division in a family, for an example if a son or daughter marry a nonbeliever or a worldly person the parents aren’t going to attend the wedding.. once i was told by an elder that if i continued with my behavior of wanting to seek worldly friends and worldly companionship that i would have to leave my home because the holy spirit would leave my house and that would have a huge impact on my family.

Drearyweather

I ask myself where is the biblical instruction on this?

This is the Biblical principle:

Matt 10:34-36:

Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword.+ 35 For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.+ 36 Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household. 37 Whoever has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and whoever has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me.+

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The God of This System Of Things 2 Cor.4:4 is the same God of Rom 13:1-7

by smiddy3 in

aren`t these two scriptures talking about the one and same god ?.

2 cor.4:4 speaks about the god of this system of things blinding the minds of unbelievers .. this scripture has always been attributed as to applying to satan the devil.

he is not blinding the minds of believers but unbelievers and i think that is a critical point about 2cor.4:4. rom.13:1-7 states that christians should be in subjection to the superior authorities under the arrangement of god and whoever opposers the authority has taken a stand against god.

Drearyweather

So in 2 Cor 4:4, Jehovah is blinding the minds of unbelievers so that the good news about Christ doesn't reach them.

And then 2 Cor 4:6, Jehovah says Let the light shine out of darkness.

So Jehovah is letting the light shine on people and then blinding their eyes too so that the light doesn't reach them?

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Communication seems to be a big problem even today

by venus in

communication seems to be a big problem even today.

1) bible commanded ‘don’t make images, don’t make any other mediator than jesus …etc.’ yet most of the christian organizations understood the command as saying to fill their churches with images and mediators.. 2) if charles t russel had read at least the first few pages of the bible seriously, he would not have taken the bible seriously.

the manner in which the genesis account opens shows it to be somebody’s tradition whose owner is unknown because it begins abruptly; it is nobody that speaks; it is nobody that hears; it is addressed to nobody; it has neither first, second, nor third person; it has every criterion of being a tradition; it has no voucher.

Drearyweather

Communication seems to be a big problem even today

Interpretation of what has been communicated is a bigger problem

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quick question: When a governing body member dies, what happens to their spouse?

by Deltawave in

what happens to the wife after their gb husband dies..

Drearyweather

Are there currently any GB widows who are still alive

Apart from Marina Sydlik and Penny Pierce, I think the following widows are still alive:

Edith Suiter

Lucille Henschel

Sydney Barber

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No other religion is as guilty as JW religion—you know why?

by venus in

all other religions have myths that show satan as inferior to god almighty.

but only jw religion portrays satan more powerful than god through their teaching of “issue of sovereignty” which implies god almighty needs validation from satan as though he waits till satan is satisfied which has not happened even after killing of jesus 2000 years ago and things like ethnic cleansing, spilling of oceans of blood ….

etc..

Drearyweather

But only JW religion portrays Satan more powerful than God

The fact that JW's use the term 'Sovereign' for Jehovah itself implies that they believe that no one is mightier than him.

If someone questions the supreme ruler or monarch of a country, and the monarch decides to give him a reply or satisfy his questions, does that mean that the one questioning becomes greater and powerful than the monarch?

needs validation from Satan as though He waits till Satan is satisfied

To put it this way, JW teaching doesnt imply that Satan is powerful than Jehovah, because:

1. they teach that even imperfect humans can fight Satan and win against him

2. and that Jehovah is not waiting to satisfy Satan, but is waiting to first imprison him and then kill him eternally.

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Current week long Elders school. Outlines / talks?

by stuckinarut2 in

so in my part of the world, they are currently holding the week long elders schools.

my father is attending one.

does anyone (hello wifi bandit?

Drearyweather

Are we sure there is a week long km school? Even pioneer school isnt a week long anymore

The School for Congregation Elders is for 5 days.

The Kingdom Ministry School is for 2 days (1 day for Elders, another for MS)

Pioneer Service School is for 6 days.

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WTBTS and donations - do you remember this gem?

by Tallon in

no organisation can operate without funds - that's a given.

however, when it comes to 'suggestions' on how one can make donations to support the org with its aims they are on a higher level.

in light of the recent video whereby they are looking for donations for a disaster fund, do you remember this gem from yesteryear?.

Drearyweather

Such reminder articles come every year. The current is from November 2017:

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2016842

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JWs + Chronic Illness

by Cimarrona in

i once asked my dad why, with all the power the wt insists on having so much control over its adherents' lives, they don't provide information about healthy eating habits or, like the adventists, wilderness training.

i mean, the gb encourage people to remain poor, and poverty is known to correlate with health outcomes, particularly those that are diet related.

i'd say most witnesses i knew over the age of 40 were overweight, had high blood pressure, heart problems, gastrointestinal issues, one kind of cancer or another (no doubt a result of eating their feelings if you ask me).

Drearyweather

Why weren't resources provided to help them better their health

Some articles that are available in their publications:

Ways to Improve Your Health

Do I Have An Eating Disorder

Nutritious Foods Within Your Reach

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How do they get away with "New Light"?

by moreconfusedthanever in

one thing that bothers me greatly is the fact that they can change their policies and beliefs and just say its "new light" and no one bats an eyelid.. there are many scriptures such as isaiah 40:8 "the word of god will last to time indefinite.

" or hebrews 6:18 "it is impossible for god to lie".

if he is "spirit directing" the borg then there should be no need for new light..

Drearyweather

they can change their policies and beliefs and just say its "new light" and no one bats an eyelid.

Have they actually used the term "New Light" in their official publications?

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The Key Text on JW.Org Leaves Out The Most Important Part!

by steve2 in

perhaps the one scripture most often quoted by jws is matthew 24:14: "this good news of the kingdomwill be preached in all the inhabited earth and then the end will come.

" even after decades away from the kingdom hall, i can still rattle off that verse.

i daresay all 8-plus million "active" jws can also recite it, plus the untold millions who have left or become inactive across the decades.. it is among the top cornerstone texts used in jw communications.. but now there's a significant shift in the use of that text: jws often focused heavily on the part of the scripture about the end coming.

Drearyweather

Matt 24:14 is used as caption to the picture used on the home page and hence only that part of the entire verse which is relevant to the picture and which makes the point is used. That is what we call as use of partial quotes.

This was done by Russel too in the 1900's. The front page of the Watchtower only used some part of Isaiah 21:11,12 to point out the use of a Watchtower. "Watchman, What of the night? The Morning Cometh and a Night Also!"

Most of us do that. No one would use an entire sentence or a verse as a caption to an image. That's where a fair use of partial quotes come to use.