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  Why the meetings are boring and uninspiring

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  each individual may have their own views as to why they feel the meetings are boring and uninspiring.

  in my case i find the midweek meeting so, because of the constant emphasis on pitching watchtower literature.

  its just monotonous and one big yawn.. i watch other christian faiths where they open up a chapter of the bible and discuss it's contents.

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  Drearyweather

  because of the constant emphasis on pitching Watchtower literature.

  That's what the mid-week meeting is made for!!

  It is like saying that you find Chemistry class boring because of the constant emphasis on chemicals and compounds.
  
  
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  They have nowhere else to go!

  by Crazyguy in

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  i think the overwhelming problem with trying to wake up friends and family is they have nowhere else to go.

  i mean these people all their friends are jws a lot of them their family is jws.

  if they wake up or agree with you in anyway they know instantly that they loose all this, many will even loose jobs.

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  Among the fence sitters, there are many Jw's who have doubts, however, they are sincere believers who love their God and want to continue as JW's. These are the ones who happily wait on Jehovah to correct matters.

  Leaving JW's is not an option for them. It is like you may hate Donald Trump and his policies, but that does not mean you have to leave America and settle in another country.
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  Wait one minute here!!! Did the GB PURPOSEFULLY launch a D.O.S. attack on Russia? (aka the letter writting campaign)

  by GTSfromSY in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i know this sounds very outlandish by the title but hear this one out:.

  a few months back i spoke to an old friend of mine raised "around the truth", but never baptized and wanting nothing to do with the wt.

  he is very hip to what is going on in the wt however.

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  Drearyweather

  Not exactly what I would imagine Jesus doing or encouraging others to do!

  With regards to the motivation to protest is concerned, WT does not consider it to be different from their Biblical counterparts. There are many stories in the Bible where believers have gone against their ruling governments. In fact, when asked by high officials to stop preaching, the disciples of Jesus blatantly disregarded it and answered in a way that JWs use to their benefit: "We shall obey God as ruler rather than men."

  Regarding political neutrality, even though JW as an organization claims to be politically neutral; as individuals, there many many other non-JW's who are neutral in politics as well and don't vote in elections. But neutral or not, each individual who pays his taxes is eligible to exercise his civil rights. Individual JW's pay their taxes and as citizens have their civil rights to practice their religion and thus as citizens have the right to voice his opinion and legally fight for his cause.

  Regarding the disruption to the government is concerned, each and every protest of any kind causes disruptions not only to the government but to the general public too. Look at the BLM protests and the Sec 377 protests in India.

  When the government of India decided to uphold the Sec 377 which criminalized gay sex, there were large scale protests throughout the country. Many people were concerned about the problems that these protests were causing. However, the disruptions caused to the government and public was pale in comparison to the impact that unjust decision of the government would have on LGBT people.

  Similarly, the letter writing campaign of JW's did disrupt the workings of the government. However, the decision of the Russian government of criminalizing JW's would have a far long and a more disastrous impact on the lives of individual JWs in Russia.
  
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  Will #metoo have an affect on forcing changing attitudes at Watchtower?

  by jwfacts in

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  2. beliefs

  despite decades of the feminist movement, watchtower's attitude of woman being inferior has changed little, with pauline sexism justified as inspired, on the basis that women are lesser emotionally, intellectually and physically.

  jehovah's witnesses seem to accept this with little resistance.

  is there anything about the #metoo movement that may wake followers up?

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  I doubt it will have an effect.

  Most of the wives of the Elders and MS and the corporate big-shots of the Watchtower are happy with what they are and play a crucial part in supporting their husbands in the JW org.

  Also, a greater percentage of Pioneers in the JW world are women.

  Taking these factors, instead of changing the WT doctrines, i feel that JW women are forefront in enforcing these doctrines.
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  Wait one minute here!!! Did the GB PURPOSEFULLY launch a D.O.S. attack on Russia? (aka the letter writting campaign)

  by GTSfromSY in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i know this sounds very outlandish by the title but hear this one out:.

  a few months back i spoke to an old friend of mine raised "around the truth", but never baptized and wanting nothing to do with the wt.

  he is very hip to what is going on in the wt however.

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  JW's = terrorist! Peaceful nonviolent terrorist! Yes, nonviolent terrorist do exist.

  Is this your conclusion only for the JW's or for anyone who participates in a letter writing campaign?

  What are your thoughts on the "Write for Rights" campaign organized by Amnesty Internatiional which led to the release of two activists- Yorm Bopha and Vladimir Akimenkov?
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  Russia is Smart

  by Kohanic in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhnseocpffq.

  so according to the law department's meeting in feb 2016, russia has been studying the linguistics of the watchtower articles and discovered its brainwashing abilities!.

  lol it's funny now that i'm on the russian side of this debate now, ban them all!.

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  The only thing that I can see in this entire Russia vs JW scene:

  Russia being Russia. JW's being JWs.
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  Russia is Smart

  by Kohanic in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhnseocpffq.

  so according to the law department's meeting in feb 2016, russia has been studying the linguistics of the watchtower articles and discovered its brainwashing abilities!.

  lol it's funny now that i'm on the russian side of this debate now, ban them all!.

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  Drearyweather

  Diogenesister

  So are you saying watchtower isn't a mind control cult??
  I don't apologize for feeling that way even if Kohanic was kind enough to.

  Diogenesister, This is a superb example of what happens when you try to read what I have not written.

  I have clearly mentioned in my response that the JW religion is harmful. However, criminalizing individual JW's or harming them in any way is not the way to tackle the problem. Did you agree with Hitler when he wanted the JW's banned? Did you agree with the way he implemented it?

  We shame the JW's that they believe that all the non-jw's would be killed in Armageddon. However, by supporting the Russian ban and wishing ill on individual adherents, we are proving that we are not different from them.

  Target the GB, but don't harm individual believers. Arrest the GB, but help the individual JW's. That's what I was trying to say.
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  Why do ex-JW's talk so much about being ex-JW's?

  by Sour Grapes in

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  2. beliefs

  is it because we were in the cult watchtower compound that we talk about being ex-jw's when we stop being active?

  i have never heard anyone say that i was an ex-catholic or an ex-lutheran or an ex-baptist.

  they just stop going to their church and don't talk about it.. years after not stepping inside a kingdom hell, many of us still have to talk about being ex-jw's.

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  Drearyweather

  we lost so many years of our lives that we are still pissed off about it?

  Most are pissed at the WT. But deep inside, many are angry that we ourselves agreed to to become a JW and told yes to whether we would follow the 'spirit directed organization and from now would be called as Jehovah's Witnesses".

  Angry that we walked ourselves to the baptism pool.
  
  
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  Russia is Smart

  by Kohanic in

  1. social
  2. current

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhnseocpffq.

  so according to the law department's meeting in feb 2016, russia has been studying the linguistics of the watchtower articles and discovered its brainwashing abilities!.

  lol it's funny now that i'm on the russian side of this debate now, ban them all!.

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  Drearyweather

  funny now that I'm on the Russian side of this debate now, ban them all!

  Kohanic, The above statement of yours in the OP prompted me to write to you.

  But I can understand what you are trying to say, so no need to apologize. We all have our moments. Cheer.

  All of us on this board agree that GB has been putting forth harmful policies and so should be stopped for good, however, none of us agree that individual JW's should be criminalized or harmed in any way. We may hate the GB and some may actively protest at conventions or at the HQ. But no one would want a maniac to enter a convention and start shooting at the witnesses.

  Saying that we support Russia in its action against the JW's is like wishing ill on individual JW's. Russia is right in that it is fighting extremism, however, what Russia is doing in criminalizing individual believers will achieve no good as cults thrive on persecution complex. Countries have banned JW's in the past and are banning them now too. However, I have not read any report on how countries have practically benefited by banning them or putting JW's behind bars.

  I know what you are trying to say, so no problem with that. We all get emotional especially when we have personally suffered.
  
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  Russia is Smart

  by Kohanic in

  1. social
  2. current

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhnseocpffq.

  so according to the law department's meeting in feb 2016, russia has been studying the linguistics of the watchtower articles and discovered its brainwashing abilities!.

  lol it's funny now that i'm on the russian side of this debate now, ban them all!.

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  Drearyweather

  Hi Kohanic,

  Since you have told that Russia is smart because they have banned the witnesses, I would like to know your opinion on the following questions:

  1. Since Russia is smart by banning JW's, have you ever felt of moving and settling in Russia since you will be out of the JW influence and would be in a smart country?

  2. If banning JW's is smart move, what do you feel about North Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran etc, who have JW's banned too?

  3. Since you are on the Russian side of the debate now, you completely agree that all individual JW's should be criminalized and put into prison for conducting meetings and going for preaching and all individual JW home should be put under constant surveillance. Am I right?

  4. Do you feel that the Russian family who was awarded the parental glory award by Putin be arrested for raising their kids as JW's?

  5. Since you now agree that JW's are extremists and that you are in a constant fear of being mind-controlled, have you considered moving to one of the countries which don't have JW's?

  6. Since you agree that JW's are extremists who should be criminalized, what is your first reaction when you see JW's standing next to a cart? Do you feel like running away in fear? or Do you sense the danger of being instantly mind-controlled and brainwashed if you even pass by the cart?