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  How did they live with themselves?

  by eyeuse2badub in

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  how do you think they lived with themselves?.

  how do you think that the israelite soldiers that were ordered by king david to take uriah to the front lines and then retreat behind him so the enemy could slaughter him live after that event?

  were they okay and at peace?.

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  It may not have stirred many consciences.

  As per the Biblical account, Joab was given the instructions to position Uriah in the battlefield. Joab himself was an opportunist and an unscrupulous man, so his conscience may not have hurt.

  Also, Uriah was not the only one who died. The story says that many other Israelites perished along with him. So for other rank and file, Uriah's death must have looked like an ordinary soldiers death and his positioning on the battlefield was likely considered as a war strategy.
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  Two Gods seen in the Bible

  by Ireneus in

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  a careful reader of the bible can see depiction of two gods in the bible—one that of a loving father figure, and the other an impulsive sort of who has been copied thoughtlessly from other cultures.. 1) god of love (as seen in genesis chapter 1) who creates humans (men and woman simultaneously) “in his image” (which means he gave the best he can to his children, the potential to become like him) as a crown of creation with a command to take care of all species, and goes into silence unconcerned of mankind’s response [gratitude or worship] to him, yet with a presupposition to “renew” in case humans deplete/destroy the resources (mathew 19:28; revelation 21:1-5).

  thus god’s action defines him as “the servant of humanity.” (luke 22:26, 27) this is in contrast to the second god (as seen in genesis chapter 2 and 3 and throughout other books) who makes the planning for suffering and death for humans in co-operation with his adversary.. 2) god of impartiality (deut 10:17; mathew 5:44-48) who asks us to love/greet everyone.

  this is in contrast to the second god who commands his worshippers not even to greet those who do not share their beliefs.

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  Rather than two God's for me it is the case of a person with supreme authorities having different shades of personalities.

  Maybe like the judge of a Supreme court, who at his home loves his 20-year-old son very much. However, when the son commits a serious crime and is brought before the judge in the court (who is the father), his father hands over a severe sentence to him to satisfy the law. (The law transcends family relationships).
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  Masionic Rings worn on right hand.

  by WildSteve in

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  2. scandals

  did anybody see august 2018 broadcasting yet?

  masionic rings always worn on the right hand little finger, these are gatekeep rings.. brother let shows his in a big way, and then the other old brother who was in prison in spain, when he tells his story they realy make a big deal on his gatekeeper masionic ring on his little finger of his right hand..

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  How do you know its a masonic ring?

  I know you have asked us to see the August 2018 broadcast, but sorry I have a poor eyesight and can't make out anything from that ring from afar.

  Can you post a close up of that ring with the symbols that prompted you to conclude that Steven Lett is a freemason?
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  Why go back to the Old Testament?

  by Lost in the fog in

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  why do jws insist on still quoting from the old testament to back up some of their wacky ideas?

  such as on blood, beards, abortion, tattoos, etc.

  surely if the mosaic law code was nailed to the torture stake all of its parts were cancelled.

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  fulltimestudent,

  That's some wonderful research that you have done. In fact, I still remember from my school days about the rich history of medieval islam often called as the Islamic Golden Age. However, I still stop short of ascribing full credit of the body of medieval knowledge and development to Islam as many islamic scholars spent a great fortune in translating the scientific knowledge of the conquered civilisations to Arabic. In fact, when Arab conquered Persia in 637 AD, most of the Nestorian Christian's were spared and they later played a role in the Arab culture. In fact, the Wikipedia states that For a long period of time the personal physicians of the Abbasid Caliphs were often Assyrian Christians.[30][31] Among the most prominent Christian families to serve as physicians to the caliphs were the Bukhtishu dynasty.

  What are your views on this? Do you feel that Islamic knowledge can be called as the assimilation of previously known knowledge? Was Medieval Islam a concoction of conquered civilisations?
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  Most recent JW statistics

  by Half banana in

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  has anyone come across detailed 2017 jw org statistics so we can compare them to previous years?

  or are they now obscured in a soapy film of praise to the demi-gods at warwick to disguise the decline?.

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  steve 2: For example, we do not even get to see how many attended the memorial by country - but instead we get one grand total.

  Steve,

  The memorial attendance breakdown by country is available. Download the full 2017 Service Year report in PDF:

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/2017-service-year-report/2017-country-territory/
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  Sex and Love, Advice? Regrets and Stories?

  by Letty in

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  2. relationships

  do you guys have any advice on dating worldly people?

  how do i not freak out during my first date with my boyfriend?

  how can i avoid being awkward?

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  Drearyweather

  Do you guys have any advice on dating worldly people?

  If you are a JW and want to date a wordly guy, then sooner or later you will come to a crossroad where you will either have to select your boyfriend or your faith.

  How do I not freak out during my first date with my boyfriend? How can I avoid being awkward?

  Why avoid? You are not in a board meeting or an interview. These funny moments adds to the fun and may become cherished memories in the years to come (if you both decide to marry).

  During my first date with my now-wife, I slipped and fell down while entering star-bucks, while my wife spilled coffee all over her dress. I had also planned an elaborate set-up for proposing to her, but a local protest that day spoiled it. I had to propose to her sitting in a bus-stand. We still cherish these moments, and every year during our anniversary, we go to the same bus-stand, take our vows and go to that star-bucks outlet to have a snack.

  And what should I know about sex and physical contact?

  Sex before marriage comes with consequences if you are raised in a religious household or a closed culture. If you are ready to accept the consequences, only then go ahead.

  I’m like genuinely lost I don’t know how to act like a normal person when it comes to dating and relationships.

  Don't "act". Be what you are. That will save you a lot of problems later on.

  Are there things you guys regret or would have done different?

  Yes, I should have married my girl earlier.

  
  
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  Sex before marriage

  by Jules Saturn in

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  for ex jws, pimos, pomos, faders, born again christians, agnostics, atheists, etc.

  what is your opinion regarding sex before marriage, has your view been influenced since you left?

  in western society, you’ll probably find yourself ridiculed to be an 18 year old virgin so i am curious to hear opinions from here.

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  Drearyweather

  Pre-marital sex comes with consequences. If you are ready to accept them, then you are fine to have it.

  If a person feels that pregnancy after sex is an 'unwanted pregnancy', then it means that unprotected sex itself was unwanted for that person.
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  1 Timothy 2:11-15...Woman and silence in the congreagation

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  1 timothy 2:11-15let a woman learn in silence with full submissiveness.

  i do not permit a woman to teach, or to exercise authority over a man, but to be in silence.

  for adam was formed first, then eve.

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  Drearyweather

  We may all speak about the suppression of women in the org, but the following aspects of the JW world is really ironical:

  1. In the Unbelieving mates category, it is mostly the women who get attracted towards the Org first and then years later drag their husbands to it. You will find many unbelieving husbands than unbelieving wives..

  2. Many women in the org are more than happy to be an elders wife than be on the stage giving a talk.

  3. A major portion of the frontline pioneers in JW world are women.

  4. In matters of shunning, usually its the mother who is the most crucial enforcer of it.
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  how to make the watchtower sell off more kingdom halls

  by pepperheart in

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  2. bible

  take as many books and magazines that you can from the carts and then the watchtower will have to spend money that they dont have to replace the books and magazines.

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  or maybe just ignore them and carry on with our lives and concentrate on our own future than the WT's.
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  Be Couragous! - (Like The Governing Body?)

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. beliefs

  i was watching lloyd evans rebuttal to the saturday program of the be courageous convention.

  lloyd pointed out something that had occurred to me as well:.

  all this talk and examples of courage, whether it be standing up in class defending intelligent design, putting up with being imprisoned, not running away from bullies, always having a reply to someone who tries to ridicule your faith... the young ones are encourages - nay, commanded - to stand their ground and be courageous.

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  Drearyweather

  Spin it as you like Drearyweather but Gerrit Losch is a LIAR.

  But it couldn't be proved in the court.
  

  Following were the observations of the Court of Appeal, California:

  On the factual record before us, we determine Lopez did not satisfy his minimal burden to present evidence showing Lösch fell within the statutory “managing agent” category.

  Lopez proffered no facts to indicate that Lösch receives compensation or other tangible benefits from Watchtower or that Governing Body members had previously complied with such deposition directives.

  Likewise, there was no evidence concerning the Governing Body's status as a separate legal entity or as an affiliate of Watchtower.

  Without evidence from which a reasonable inference can be drawn that Watchtower had some legal or practical ability to influence Lösch's decision to attend the deposition, there is no basis to conclude Lösch could be expected to comply with Watchtower's directives to appear.

  there was insufficient evidence to support a determination that Lösch was Watchtower's “managing agent” for purposes of compelling his deposition and granting sanctions for his nonappearance.

  Because a party may be subject to severe sanctions if a party-affiliate does not attend a deposition, there must be at least some minimal showing that the party has the ability to induce the deponent to attend the scheduled deposition.

  (Pages 47-50)

  http://www.courts.ca.gov/opinions/archive/D066388.PDF