Maybe the GB heard about this in advance and then started doing their re-org into numerous smaller entities to try to keep ahead of the law.
picosito
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Judge Orders God To Break Up Into Smaller Dieties
by Nathan Natas in"washington, dc.
calling the theological giant's stranglehold on the religion industry "blatantly anti-competitive," a u.s. district judge ruled monday that god is in violation of anti-monopoly laws and ordered him to be broken up into several less powerful deities...".
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THE BORG IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION
by picosito init's the borg's fault that there's no more joy associated with being a jw.
i'm posting this previous reply of mine to tr's "my visit to the hall last night" because i got so overwhelmed by these things i remembered i had to do it as a new post.. the borg not only has proscribed all the holidays and birthdays, but also clamps down on jws' choices in entertainment and association, and it looks like they've pretty well eliminated fun from worship.
and they have the nerve to remind people of how jehovah is a happy god!!!
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picosito
It's the Borg's fault that there's no more joy associated with being a JW. I'm posting this previous reply of mine to TR's "My Visit to the Hall Last Night" because I got so overwhelmed by these things I remembered I had to do it as a New Post.
The Borg not only has proscribed all the Holidays and Birthdays, but also clamps down on JWs' choices in entertainment and association, and it looks like they've pretty well eliminated FUN from worship. AND THEY HAVE THE NERVE TO REMIND PEOPLE OF HOW JEHOVAH IS A HAPPY GOD!!! My reminiscences posted below have helped convince me beyond a shadow of a doubt that I quit an organization that IN EVERY WAY HAS EVOLVED INTO THE SAME KIND OF ENTITY AS ORGANIZATIONS THAT REPRESENT MIND- AND BODY-ENSLAVING EVIL IN THE THINKING OF RATIONAL PEOPLE, SUCH AS "GODLESS COMMUNISM", FASCISM, NAZISM, FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAM TERROR GROUPS, to name a few, AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION BY ALL CIVILIZED NATIONS AND TREATED ACCORDINGLY!!!!!!
"TR, you just reminded me of something else. There USED to be live music and interesting talks!!
"** In the latter 70's the music at Dodger Stadium was live, courtesy of Al Kavelin and his Orchestra. My wife was Jewish and we both related well to Jews, and somehow we got to know Al and a son of his. They were Jews who either became JW's or grew up as JW's. So...
"** We invited Al to come up to our Hesperia, CA, congo to give the public talk. Talk!!! It was all about Jehovah's people and music, so he and his son mostly played the KH piano and some instruments they brought, giving us samples of what some of the Psalms might have been like if played, plus some other musical selections that I don't remember anymore. The hall was packed and everyone was so amazed at how wonderful that meeting was!!
"** Yes, Kingdom Halls did have pianos at one time, and WE SANG TO KINGDOM MELODIES PLAYED ON THE PIANO!!!! Some piano players were inspired and some not so good, but at least the music was LIVE!!! Assembly Halls had live piano also, with a brother waving a baton at us from the platform to help us keep up a good tune.
"** A congo we visited once in Tucson not only had a piano, but also a violin and saxophone, and Kingdom Melodies were played by a TRIO, one sister and two brothers, and talk about being astounded at that!!! They made the music come alive!
"** Back in 1975 the Public talk was still one hour and we had ten minutes after it to get up and socialize, stretch, get some water, use the restroom, before going into the Watchtower. That really was something that was very nice.
"** There were Public Talk outlines, but they did not have to be used in such a rigid way back then. The Kavelins would never be able to pull off a "Talk" like that in this current hostile WTS environment. There was even a brother from Victorville or the San Bernardino area who was a complete act in himself. He looked like a cross between Groucho Marx and Billy DeWolf. His act on the platform was very Danny Kaye-ish. He wiggled his nose and face parts around like Danny Kaye and all he had to do was go to the platform and look out at the audience to have everyone in stitches, especially the kids. He always did a talk about some Bible theme, but he always managed to have evrybody laughing most of the time. Everybody talked about his coming for weeks before and weeks afterwards.
"** Also back in '75 there was a Number 5 Talk. Parts were six minutes log then and I especially appreciated the Number 5 because you were given just a one- or two-word theme or a name, such as "Christian Forgiveness" or "Elijah" or "John the Baptist" or "Hebrew Language". You had to develop the whole thing yourself and use scriptures appropriately. It was very stimulating to do that kind of talk.
"** Also reminiscing back to 1975: my first District Assembly (used to be called) at Dodger Stadium not only provided live orchestra music, but also LIVE FOOD. There were propane-fueled and electricity-run stands all over the place where JW's sold hot dogs, restaurant-style roast beef that got sliced right there, ice cream, soda, coffee, and every other conceivable type of goodie making it all feel like a spiritual Renaissance Faire.
"I probably will remember other perks from the WT experience in the past, but now that I'm remembering these, I realize just how much freedom, ingenuity, variety, friendliness and FUN there used to be in Jehovah's so-called "Organization," which has now been ELIMINATED or LIQUIDATED from the JW experience as the GB has the Borg march ever onward to its goal of all Witnesses being in subjection to their repressive, unhappy, joyless, boring Orwellian JEHOVAHBORGDOM. So they should realize it's all their own fault that their waters are drying up faster and faster."
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My visit to the Hall Last Night- Highlights
by TR inblah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and blah.
monotone, monotone, monotone,.
monotone, monotone.. you were right, moxy.
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TR, you just reminded me of something else. There USED to be live music and interesting talks!!
** In the latter 70's the music at Dodger Stadium was live, courtesy of Al Kavelin and his orchestra. My wife was Jewish and we both related well to Jews, and somehow we got to know Al and a son of his. They were Jews who either became JW's or grew up as JW's. So...
** We invited Al to come up to our Hesperia, CA, congo to give the public talk. Talk!!! It was all about Jehovah's people and music, so he and his son mostly played the KH piano and some instruments they brought, giving us samples of what some of the Psalms might have been like if played, plus some other musical selections that I don't remember anymore. The hall was packed and everyone was so amazed at how wonderful that meeting was!!
** Yes, Kingdom Halls did have pianos at one time, and WE SANG TO KINGDOM MELODIES PLAYED ON THE PIANO!!!! Some piano players were inspired and some not so good, but at least the music was LIVE!!! Assembly Halls had live piano also, with a brother waving a baton at us from the platform to help us keep up a good tune.
** A congo we visited once in Tucson not only had a piano, but also a violin and saxophone, and Kingdom Melodies were played by a TRIO, one sister and two brothers, and talk about being astounded at that!!! They made the music come alive!
** Back in 1975 the Public talk was still one hour and we had ten minutes after it to get up and socialize, stretch, get some water, use the restroom, before going into the Watchtower. That really was something that was very nice.
** There were Public Talk outlines, but they did not have to be used in such a rigid way back then. The Kavelins would never be able to pull off a "Talk" like that in this current hostile WTS environment. There was even a brother from Victorville or the San Bernardino area who was a complete act in himself. He looked like a cross between Groucho Marx and Billy DeWolf. His act on the platform was very Danny Kaye-ish. He wiggled his nose and face parts around like Danny Kaye and all he had to do was go to the platform and look out at the audience to have everyone in stitches, especially the kids. He always did a talk about some Bible theme, but he always managed to have evrybody laughing most of the time. Everybody talked about his coming for weeks before and weeks afterwards.
** Also back in '75 there was a Number 5 Talk. Parts were six minutes log then and I especially appreciated the Number 5 because you were given just a one- or two-word theme or a name, such as "Christian Forgiveness" or "Elijah" or "John the Baptist" or "Hebrew Language". You had to develop the whole thing yourself and use scriptures appropriately. It was very stimulating to do that kind of talk.
** Also reminiscing back to 1975: my first District Assembly (used to be called) at Dodger Stadium not only provided live orchestra music, but also LIVE FOOD. There were stands all over the place where JW's sold hot dogs, restaurant-style roast beef that got sliced right there, and every other conceivable type of goodie reminiscent of Renaissance Faires.
I probably will remember other perks from the WT experience in the past, but now that I'm remembering these, I realize just how much freedom, ingenuity, variety, friendliness and FUN there used to be in Jehovah's so-called "Organization," which has now been ELIMINATED or LIQUIDATED from the JW experience as the GB has the Borg march ever onward to its goal of all Witnesses being in subjection to their repressive, unhappy, joyless, boring Orwellian JEHOVAHBORGDOM. So they should realize it's all their own fault that their waters are drying up faster and faster.
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My visit to the Hall Last Night- Highlights
by TR inblah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and blah.
monotone, monotone, monotone,.
monotone, monotone.. you were right, moxy.
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picosito
Great, TR, just GREAT.
Come to think of it, I just tried to IGNORE all the boring BS, BS and more BS during my 25 JW years until one Service Meeting over a year ago, the bro that had local announcements reminded us about how meeting attendance is a very good HABIT to have, and that if we start missing meetings we might start to LIKE staying home instead of going to the meetings. So I thought, "Is THAT why I'm here even though I'm always so tired and it's always the same old shit meeting after meeting? When I can enjoy doing my own stuff at home instead? A friggin' HABIT?" So I put his counsel to the test and HE WAS RIGHT!!! I quit the meeting habit cold turkey, just the way I stopped smoking to BECOME a JW. I never went to another meeting and was so happy that I finally got some truly valuable counsel from the platform that I was fully able to "pay more than the usual attention" to and apply "down deep in my heart."
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Who are still in and who has left the JW Org? Why?
by STRUGGLE ingood morning!.
hi was just wondering who are still active in the organization and do you have doubts?
those of you who have left, briefly what made you leave, do you have any regrets, and was it hard making new friends?.
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picosito
For me, the Cold Turkey method turned out to be the best way for me to quit the Borg, just as it was the best way for me to quit smoking in order to become a JW. I have no regrets, and can now go about my life in the most creative way possible.
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"Persecution"
by Norm inlooking over some of my old papers i came across this quite amusing article from the awake magazine.
the awake!
starts up its lament with a text from the bible: .
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picosito
It's interesting how the WT Org uses the term "opposers" to imply that anyone that disagrees with their policies for whatever reason is the lowest scum on earth, deserving of destruction. It's becoming ever more clear that what truly deserves destruction is the Watchtower Organization, and that, of course, will be at the hand of its "opposers."
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Part 4: The Last KM School
by Amazing inpart 4: the last km school .
the average jw elder participates in extra exclusive activities over and above the rank & file jw: among them are the judicial committees, private meetings with the circuit and district overseer on various official occasions, possession of the secretive flock book, and kingdom ministry school.. of all these, the least frequently experienced is km school.
it is not all that exciting, because much of what is covered is admonition about what most jws already know that elders are supposed to be doing: examples in field service, regular shepherding calls, meeting preparation and attendance, study with the family, etc.
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picosito
From SexyTeen:
"Picosito:
yeah right, you don't know if those references are truth or forged...keep believing whatever Ray tells you."No, no, SexyTeen, you're not getting it (BTW, are you 13 or 19 or in between, or are you maybe just six years old. No offense intended. The WTS prefers people to be six years old spiritually and mentally. It's part of their M.O.).
Research YOURSELF any of Ray's references and YOU decide if they're true or false. That's what references are FOR; for sane, reasonable people to check out the truth or falseness of the claims someone is MAKING. That's why WTS does not provide references. They don't want you to know if they're telling the truth or lying. Anybody that believes "whatever Ray tells you" is doing the same thing as believing in the Watchtower, which was not my point at all.
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MOVING TO WHERE THE NEED IS GREATER
by picosito inhow many of us would like to see wts brought to task for encouraging us to "go where the need is greater" and then not supporting our efforts or trying to subvert them by all means of organizational rules and regulations after our having gone through much pain and trouble to relocate our family and have suitable employment?.
or am i the only one who has experienced an abusive scenario in this regard?
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picosito
Thomas: "However, from that KH group I received sarcasism, suspicion, arrogance, and disrespect."
Picosito: I definitely received those too. Guess I musta read the Needgreater call from a KM they never read.
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MOVING TO WHERE THE NEED IS GREATER
by picosito inhow many of us would like to see wts brought to task for encouraging us to "go where the need is greater" and then not supporting our efforts or trying to subvert them by all means of organizational rules and regulations after our having gone through much pain and trouble to relocate our family and have suitable employment?.
or am i the only one who has experienced an abusive scenario in this regard?
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picosito
Thanks, Fred. Another illuminating reply.
I meant "the only one" posting here. I already know about Ray.
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MOVING TO WHERE THE NEED IS GREATER
by picosito inhow many of us would like to see wts brought to task for encouraging us to "go where the need is greater" and then not supporting our efforts or trying to subvert them by all means of organizational rules and regulations after our having gone through much pain and trouble to relocate our family and have suitable employment?.
or am i the only one who has experienced an abusive scenario in this regard?
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picosito
How many of us would like to see WTS brought to task for encouraging us to "Go Where the Need is Greater" and then not supporting our efforts or trying to subvert them by all means of organizational rules and regulations after our having gone through much pain and trouble to relocate our family and have suitable employment?
Or am I the only one who has experienced an abusive scenario in this regard?