Posts by joao

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2022-Secret Watchtower Disfellowshipping Reference Manual.

by Atlantis in

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massive new document written by wt, 837 pages, meant for arguments vs officials and media to defend the disfellowshipping arrangement.

found in the casefile in norway.

meant to be secret.. .

Wrong Religion

by Vanderhoven7 in

we brainstormed a while back on this forum and pooled our knowledge on how to recognize false religion.

i think the list is worth reviewing and adding to if possible.

please feel free to correct and or add insights of your own to this list:.

My personal thoughts on Ray Franz

by Terry in

the death of ray franz hit me harder than i would have thought.. i had to reflect for awhile....alone......and quietly.. .

after all, fine people die every day and some of them are indispensable, yet, we go on....don't we?.

but, ray franz was something that can only be described in the phrase sui generis (one of a kind).. my task was to ask myself what it was that made ray so singular, potent and admirable without a trace of scandal or ill will attached to his memory.. .

joao

@Terry

And his books are really superb!!!

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No beards...even Jesus! Strange Watchower rule for brothers!

by Witness 007 in

watchtower 1954 p.511 "why do watchtower publications now show jesus with short hair and no beard?

because he is shown that way in older representations of him that are older then the traditional effeminate looking pictures.".

watchtower 1968 p.286 "bible evidence and a recent review shows that jesus did have a beard..." charles russell style of beard was popular at bethel...till rutherford took over.

joao

Even though I don't like to wear a beard, I've always thought that this rule is absolutely silly! Beard grows. Good made men with beard. It's another example of humans wanting to play God!

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Prediction of how Watchtower going to be in 5 Years.

by Foolednomore in

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i can see it that watchtower will become an online/tv based group with just con-vention hall$.. field service would be letter writing and phone preaching, door to door is done.. watchtower will have pay to view programs and still ask for donations after all that.. zoom meetings are here to stay.

kingdumb halls will be sold off except for con-vention venues, or need for new ones$.. df'ing will continue.

the craziness will continue.

joao

@Simon

Couldn't agree more.

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Missionaries in Mali.

by Lost in the fog in

i don't think the gb at wt will pay for their release like the pope did for the nun.

they better say their goodbyes.. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/story/2022-05-20/3-italians-1-togolese-abducted-in-southern-mali-says-mayor .

joao

You would have to be a nut case to be a missionary in a muslim country and I can't see the WT giving many hints and tips about keeping your head securely fitted other than to pray. I feel sorry for those lulled into a false sense of security and sent on very dangerous mission.

Totally agreed!

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Missionaries in Mali.

by Lost in the fog in

i don't think the gb at wt will pay for their release like the pope did for the nun.

they better say their goodbyes.. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/story/2022-05-20/3-italians-1-togolese-abducted-in-southern-mali-says-mayor .

joao

I don't think the lives of these people are a joke

For many they aren't because they really face very dangerous situations. By I wasn't referring to their lives, I was referring to the way they live. And, yes, it's totally irresponsible the way WT sends them to some countries... This is only one example among many.

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Missionaries in Mali.

by Lost in the fog in

i don't think the gb at wt will pay for their release like the pope did for the nun.

they better say their goodbyes.. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/story/2022-05-20/3-italians-1-togolese-abducted-in-southern-mali-says-mayor .

joao

Funny how simplified lifestyle requires a servant.

People work, slave and donate for WT so that they can live happy and calm lives...

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Verifying The Claim The IBSA ,not JW ,were approved by Jehovah God / Christ Jesus as God`s Chosen People in 1919 ??

by smiddy3 in

how do they verify this claim,if they can and how easy do we debunk this claim if we can ?.

what is needed to verify a claim made by anyone or an organization ?.

i`m interested in what you have to say about this ..

joao

Proving that one is blessed by God is impossible but proving that one isn't is very easy! :)

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Chessa Manion: When A Victim Becomes The Perp

by NonCoinCollector in

this is a hard one for me to write and words can't describe my frustration in seeing this.

from wbko news: .

bowling green, ky. (wbko) - bowling green police have arrested two people on multiple charges following a rape.. police say the victim told them she was kidnapped, raped, and assaulted.. police also say the rape was recorded by a man named colton hogendorn, who was arrested after police found him on 25 chestnut street.. hogendorn is charged with rape first degree, kidnapping, strangulation, assault, sodomy, and video voyeurism.. police also arrested chessa manion, who was present during the events, and arrested and charged with complicity to the same charges.. both were taken to the warren county regional jail.. .

joao

Not to find any excuse for anything, but Chessa Manion doesn't look herself... She looks ill, like she lost it!

Troubled upbringing, troubled life, troubled results! And another victim!