Posts by redpilltwice

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New to site...let me intro myself

by LarryCope in

first, i've been out of the organization for 20 years this very year!

i was baptized in 1979 and attended one of the lancaster ohio congregations.

realizing i was gay, i left and after being in the columbus gay community for 6 months, decided bar hopping and cruising was not my cup o' tea.i decided to return in late '90 and was reinstated in '91.

redpilltwice

Thanks for your story Larry and welome to this forum...it's my daily manna now.

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My Story

by WeatherLover in

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i'm a 4th generation jw.

i started to realize it wasn't the truth over 2 years ago in late october/early november 2014. i don't know how exactly it happened.

i remember i had just heard about confirmation bias, and it hit me: i realized that i would be guilty of confirmation bias if i didn't look at the other side.

redpilltwice

Thanks for your story WeatherLover, I suggest you wait for the right moment to start your fade. Do it well and strategic in order to avoid as much pain in your family as possibly, but it will always hurt in one way or another. Your win (freedom) will be their loss, but it's YOUR life, especially when one day you will live on your own. Play the I-feel-weak/discouraged-card, avoid elders or at least keep your real thoughts to yourself and try to minimize your activity for the Borg. They'd rather have a weak, difficult-to-reach brother around than having to deal with an apostate. My first steps on the way to TTATT were triggered by looking for information regarding the Candace Conti's abuse case in 2012. Before that there have been accusations of sexual abuse in my congregation. The accusations luckily turned out to be false but it had put me on the same path to find truth instead of confirmation bias as you've pointed out and experienced yourself. My point...it took me 3 years to fully realise the impact of what I've investigated and to start my fade without fear or doubts. I wish that period would've been shorter, but hey, it explains if you know I'm 50 now! You however are in a different situation...good luck and very good you've looked for support here...it's an awesome forum!

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Always ask an Elder before sharing posts!

by Tahoe in

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lol.

redpilltwice

Doctor Who > Anthony III has a facebook page also. Hahahahahahahaha. Just a few years ago, they would have been labeled "spiritually weak" for having one.

A few years ago while I was still in, one older brother told me privately that he would disfellowhip everyone with a facebook account. Of course he was no elder or MS but I'm not kidding, he was dead serious, no trace of sarcasm or humorous intent on his face. I'm so glad I'm out of WT's never never land.

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How much money people usually donate to WT ?

by Bardamu in

i grew up in the org and never got baptised, however i was wondering recently about how much money my family and old friends are wasting in all that.

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i remember of course never talking in amounts, that it was important to give from what you can not what you have etc but i admit i have no clue how much the average witness gives (say in % of their income).. i'm sure it varies greatly, i'd love to hear what you guys have to say..

redpilltwice

It has been a while that I did the administration. Automatic contributions would vary from 20 euro up to a weighty 180 euro (200 dollar) each month! A few years ago (while I was still in) one elder privately expressed his concern regarding the congregation's income if the old 180-euro-brother would die. I know this brother indeed has died very recently.

Of course there is always someone's will...don't know how much the WT will benefit from his death.

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Can't Edit Bio

by schnell in

hi, i'd like to update my bio as it currently shows "none" but the update profile button isn't clickable.

halp?

!.

redpilltwice

Also solved! Thanks Simon.

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Short stay

by midnight in

after much research and prayer i am returning to being a jehovah's witness i can find nothing that eliminates them from being god's directed people , in the end they will reach the end of there journey despite mistakes and errors just like the israelites entered the promised land , thanks for your input and all the best on your personal journey ☺.

midnight..

redpilltwice

I respect your choice, good luck.

"Nothing that eliminates them from being God's directed people"?? Hmm... lying maybe? Including "proof" that we are living in the last days? Will you lie for the GB about that? Really?

Also remember that the bigger 1500y journey of the Israelites was a miserable one, filled with blood, wars, betrayal, politics, corruption, riots, imprisonment, exile and the rejection of Christ.

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Reaching the most distant parts - Geoffrey Jackson praising Bible translators and missionaries as "faithful ones" or even "anointed ones"

by TheWonderofYou in

after we heard some time ago that before the time of russel there was no "faitful slave" or no anointed ones who formed a faitful slave class, now we learn that we dont know if before russel there were not "faitful ones" or "anointed".

indeed jackson says that we know the bible teaches that throughout the history there would be a large number of "sons of the kingdom" ..or anointed ones.. beginning from this month in several projects including a film about christian bible translators who gave an example of "faithfulness" and "discretness" in translating the bible, the christian bibletranslators and missionionaries who used "jehovah" by the way are receiving ultimate praise of the governing body, in the first place at the moment is shown the video about tyndale, wo so is very much supposedly a "faithful one" and perhaps even "anointed" because he loved the bible.. jackson says that those early missionaries of the christendom already "preached the message" before russell.

january broadcast.

redpilltwice

Haven't watched it but with now even more anointed before Russell, wouldn't the 144,000 already have been sealed before the days of the modern day org? I know the whole thing is already a mess with the rising number of partakers, but hypothetically speaking...

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An Obvious Omission in the J.W.'s Good News!

by The Searcher in

as baptized or unbaptised witnesses, no one ever discussed or even mentioned (at least in my jw experience) this topic: .

"we are preaching about the good news of the kingdom.

why do we preach about only one hope - living on earth?

redpilltwice

Good point! Since the "new light" about two classes, the heavenly hope is only for those who are selected by Jehovah from already baptised witnesses. Any new biblestudent already claiming to be an anointed would be distrusted and viewed as unbalanced, too emotional, too puffed up, maybe even demonized by Babylon's unclean false doctrines, such as devote, passionate South-American style Catholicism.They already have too many "kings and priests", they only need more money from the other sheep, so why mention the heavenly hope more than absolute necessary?

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Where the need is greater: TTATT in Spanish

by Londo111 in

it seems most of the us growth is in spanish-speaking territory, and of course, there is growth in the nations where spanish is the predominant language.

most sites oriented around ttatt, are english-speaking.

there seems then to be a great need for translators...for instance, imagine if there was a spanish version of www.jwfacts.com.. unfortunately, i dont speak this language.

redpilltwice

And to think soms have said there is no unity among ex-JW's...I'm touched by what is happening here on this forum! Keep up this good life saving work. ILTTATT2!

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Is this a new practice?

by Visitor1984 in

my husband and i recently moved back to our hometown so we are back on the radar for the elders.

we have been happily inactive the last few years.

the other day a brother, who was once friends with my husband, and a substitute circuit overseer stopped in my husband's work for a shepherding visit if they still call it that.

redpilltwice

When did it become acceptable to go to one's workplace and engage in a half hour conversation with your tablet in hand discussing scriptures?

Not. What happened to the good old

"I know you’re working, so I’ll be very brief.” (km 3/12 p. 2 par. 4)