i had a conversation with my dad concerning the legal cases the jws are loosing and how their policies are still lacking.
he answered that he has confidence that jehovah will give his people the wisdom and discernment necessary to make the changes.
i then explained that most of the improvements were made as a result of various court cases, including the australian commission.. my dad: well, than, jehovah uses the governments to discipline his people just like he did with the jews.
I've experienced similar and other JW claims myself during my fade. Anytime a JW refers to the OT in order to find support for certain organisational policies/decisions he/she seems to ignore the fact that the 1500y Jewish experiment was doomed to fail for a reason and finally replaced by a god that couldn't bare the human errors any longer.
But they just always want to be right, right?
there is much speculation about our perfect life ahead.
a big way jw's are wrong is they do not allow for the human need to specualte on this life ahead.
except for governing body, no one else can speculate.
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I tell you, this topic made my day but is definitely posted in the wrong section!
i'd like to show you a short video i made about exjw activism in poland.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt3qdtyxgd8.
i'm one of the people responsible for those information campaigns/protests, so you can ask me anything you like.
there's a lot i didn't show on the video because of the limited time i have for editing, i have tons of footage more.
So great to see how the activists are using the infamous Awake! 1969 article regarding 1975. If I still were a witness, that would certainly draw my attention, especially given the misleading information from that video with the brother. I would simply reason it's either true or a lie...and research it!
well went on a vacation cross country for 10 days to see relatives, and so decided to drop in on my old kingdom hall to get a look at some old friends i haven't seen in more the 27 years.. came in around 1:15 pm middle of the public talk wearing tight fitting jeans and an old sweat shirt, and sat down in front of person i served with as an elder.
the talks was so boring i can't remember a word of it, i can only recall that it was very disjointed with tremendous leaps in logic, so that my mind could not and would not follow the speaker.
watchtower study was a complete brain shrinking repeat of putting on the new personality or something, with the conductor fishing for baby food comments where none of the 3 or 4 young ones gave any comments only the hard core braindead were answering.
Did you donate something?
Great anti-witnessing tool... drool!!
i've done a good deal of posting in my brief 24 hours here so far, figured i might as well provide a slightly more in depth narrative.
second generation born-in.
elder's daughter and elders' granddaughter.
Great story. Good to leave false hope behind at 18!
seeing a trinity thread.. can a jw apologist explain what (not who) is jesus?.
prior to the creation of everything 13.7 billion years ago (draw close book), jehovah created jesus as his firstborn, his only-begotten.. there was nothing else - no stars, no dust, no matter - just jehovah - and then, just jehovah and jesus.
so, what was jesus?.
Why bother to understand? Our reality, what we can observe, seems to be just 6%, the rest is likely to be dark matter and dark energy.
one of the things that helped me in my awakening and fading process from jwland was something that i call "random failures".
let me explain it.
it happened like 4 years ago.
Well, I think in hypothetical jw paradise there will be...
Perfect tools/equipment which will last longer but also will be replaced in time
Perfect skills
Perfect safety measures
Perfect anticipation to stress factors
Furthermore, for the 0,000001% that might slip through, Jesus and the 144,000 will surely keep an eye on the tools of the earthly class with perfect x-ray vision.
In the ultra ultra ultra rare case a drop of blood might be spilled anyway, people will have a perfect regeneration and immune system and as an added bonus there will absolutely be fantastic super herbs and last but not least, supernatural divine healers.
I think Jah will finally have some more time for himself after 6,000 y of rebellion and stress factors...
greetings brothers,.
the branch committee has prepared an encouraging video meant to encourage and reassure those affected by the recent storm.
please note that this link or any images from the video are not to be posted to the internet or any social media.. irma message - english.
Thanks for sharing wifibandit.
God, does that Weaver jr. sound old and tired!
i've been a school overseer for about 5 yards but god do I hate those gestures!
These fu@#ers don't live in the real world, let them grab a shovel!
so after three years of fading, my elder father has never really asked why we have chosen to stop attending.. today, after a mixed discussion, he starts talking about the "solution to all the world problems" and says "i don't know what you now believe, but i believe gods kingdom will fix everything" i let the comment go, and didn't respond.. then he goes on about the video "remember the wife of lot" because he just came from the convention last weekend.
"don't get caught up in this system...blah blah".
i couldn't help myself, and said one thing "dad, that video failed to show the next chapter of that account.
Sorry to read that. Two things however, from a JW point of view, talking about the Bible doen't make someone outside the Borg righteous/valid in his/her argument... didn't satan quote the OT against Jesus?
Second, Lot wasn't under the Mosaic Law and getting drunk and having sex with his two daughters may have been a case of "the mind is willing but the flesh is weak" in Jehovah's eyes. I know, I know... just saying... ask king David how that stuff works...
As long as JW's consider the GB to be GoD (Guardians of Doctrine) everyone else can be considered wrong regarding their own interpretation. Your father needs to see through the indoctrination first...I hope that will happen one day.
