Posts by QC
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Interesting Findings from the ESA Plank Satellite
by cantleave inthe european space agency has produced a fascinating map of the universe using the super dooper plank satelite.. by stripping out dust emissions and radio frequencies from the milky way galaxy and more distant objects to leave just the afterglow of the big bang, an image of the microwave radiation (measured over a 15 month period) has been obtained that gives an extremely precise picture of the universe just 380,000 years after the big bang.. what we have learned from this data is the universe is some 80 million years older than we thought, the universe is made up of slightly more ordinary matter than was previously thought - 4.9% of all matter, up from 4.5% - and that there is less dark energy (which cosmologists don't understand) than previously thought and also it has an axis of evil (it appears the early universe was assymetrical) and a cold spot!!.
so we need to go back to the drawing board with regard to inflation theory to account for the asymmetry and cold spot.. this is why i love science, the more we learn, the more we have to learn.
btw, god sisn't show herself!.
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Interesting Findings from the ESA Plank Satellite
by cantleave inthe european space agency has produced a fascinating map of the universe using the super dooper plank satelite.. by stripping out dust emissions and radio frequencies from the milky way galaxy and more distant objects to leave just the afterglow of the big bang, an image of the microwave radiation (measured over a 15 month period) has been obtained that gives an extremely precise picture of the universe just 380,000 years after the big bang.. what we have learned from this data is the universe is some 80 million years older than we thought, the universe is made up of slightly more ordinary matter than was previously thought - 4.9% of all matter, up from 4.5% - and that there is less dark energy (which cosmologists don't understand) than previously thought and also it has an axis of evil (it appears the early universe was assymetrical) and a cold spot!!.
so we need to go back to the drawing board with regard to inflation theory to account for the asymmetry and cold spot.. this is why i love science, the more we learn, the more we have to learn.
btw, god sisn't show herself!.
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QC
@prologos
nothing Material existed INCLUDING time ? why do include TIME in something material?
Space and time are not separate; they are a fabric in the universe named Space-Time by Einstein. They came into existence at the Big Bang creation of the universe.
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Interesting Findings from the ESA Plank Satellite
by cantleave inthe european space agency has produced a fascinating map of the universe using the super dooper plank satelite.. by stripping out dust emissions and radio frequencies from the milky way galaxy and more distant objects to leave just the afterglow of the big bang, an image of the microwave radiation (measured over a 15 month period) has been obtained that gives an extremely precise picture of the universe just 380,000 years after the big bang.. what we have learned from this data is the universe is some 80 million years older than we thought, the universe is made up of slightly more ordinary matter than was previously thought - 4.9% of all matter, up from 4.5% - and that there is less dark energy (which cosmologists don't understand) than previously thought and also it has an axis of evil (it appears the early universe was assymetrical) and a cold spot!!.
so we need to go back to the drawing board with regard to inflation theory to account for the asymmetry and cold spot.. this is why i love science, the more we learn, the more we have to learn.
btw, god sisn't show herself!.
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QC
You're in over your head....Like I said before. You're learning curve is huge. Time will tell.
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Interesting Findings from the ESA Plank Satellite
by cantleave inthe european space agency has produced a fascinating map of the universe using the super dooper plank satelite.. by stripping out dust emissions and radio frequencies from the milky way galaxy and more distant objects to leave just the afterglow of the big bang, an image of the microwave radiation (measured over a 15 month period) has been obtained that gives an extremely precise picture of the universe just 380,000 years after the big bang.. what we have learned from this data is the universe is some 80 million years older than we thought, the universe is made up of slightly more ordinary matter than was previously thought - 4.9% of all matter, up from 4.5% - and that there is less dark energy (which cosmologists don't understand) than previously thought and also it has an axis of evil (it appears the early universe was assymetrical) and a cold spot!!.
so we need to go back to the drawing board with regard to inflation theory to account for the asymmetry and cold spot.. this is why i love science, the more we learn, the more we have to learn.
btw, god sisn't show herself!.
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QC
But we do know there was a BEGINNING, a situation before when nothing material exists, including time. Hmmm.....
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Yes, for good reason appellation Father is dominant in the NT over Jehovah
by QC inthe purpose of the christian era is to moves descendent of adam into the family of jesus, the "last adam eternal father.
" 1co 15:45; isa 9:6 so, the christian order is familial, it is about jesus' family pleasing the father.. .
this is why jesus is the center piece of the nt greek text.
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cat,
Thanks for the clarity. It's all good.
I keep thinking I'm going to hit some resistance at the Memorial. Am I being paranoid?
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Is Prince allowed to wear an ear cuff?
by I_love_Jeff inwearing ear spirals (ear cuffs) traces back to the ancient times.
it has been found out that most egyptians wear them based on the paintings found on the pyramids.
ear cuffs and other jewelries are only worn by royalties back then.. is this scriptural?.
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QC
Prince, like Michael Jackson and any celebrity type, is a JW untouchable. The color of justice is green even in JW politics.
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Yes, for good reason appellation Father is dominant in the NT over Jehovah
by QC inthe purpose of the christian era is to moves descendent of adam into the family of jesus, the "last adam eternal father.
" 1co 15:45; isa 9:6 so, the christian order is familial, it is about jesus' family pleasing the father.. .
this is why jesus is the center piece of the nt greek text.
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QC
@Band on the Run
Britannica "Judaism, as the Jewish religion came to be known in the 1 st century AD, was based on ancient Israelite religion, shorn of many of its Canaanite characteristics but with the addition of important features from Babylonia and Persia. The Jews differed from other people in the ancient world because they believed that there was only one God." Here's the OT proof:
NIV "Don't all of us have one Father? Didn't one God create us?" Mal 2:10 "You alone are God." Ps 86:10
LIT "Jehovah, You are our Father... we all are Your handiwork." Isa 64:8
CLV "There is none like You among the elohim, O Yahweh." Ps 86:8
This Scriptural evidence shines a bright light on the Trinitarians paper trail. 1 st century Christians did not believe in a Trinity doctrine. One God divisible by "holy three" entities is absurd to Christian JEWS whose theology comes from Judaism. Furthermore, there is no 1 st CENTURY Jewish Christian polemic signature writing arguing for an ineffable mysterious Godhead that somehow is "one God, with three eternal personalities." Why is this important to note? JEWS are the only ones allowed to write Biblical theology:
"Moses...received living words to pass on to us [Jews];" Acts 7:38 "Advantage...in being a Jew...Jews have been ENTRUSTED with the very words of god." NIV Ro 3:1-2
None of the apostles or NT writers uses this 4 th century language:
Athanasian Creed "The Father is almighty, the Son almighty, and the Holy Spirit almighty;
The Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; and yet they are
not three eternals but one eternal"
This articulation began arriving in the Constantinian 4 th CENTURY with non-Jew theological revisionist GENTILE Athanasius; Egyptian cleric from the Alexandrian diocese, exiled for 17 years—by emperors Constantine, Constantius, Julian and Valens—for his novel Hellenized theology which places the Hebrew God in the pantheon of Greek mythology.
If Trinitarian theology is fundamental change to Christianity it wouldn't take 300 years for it to be authenticated. Any FUNDAMENTAL legitimate change would happen in 1 st century Christianity. This sort of change would model the circumcision fundamental change. Judaizer objectors to ending circumcision Ga 2:14 force a cause celebre public debate to be heard by Jewish Christian pillars, apostles and elders. These JEWISH Christians accountable for the foundation of Christianity resolve the circumcision issue by ending it. This foundational change comes early in Christianity's development. Clearly, any other fundamental foundation change (like Trinity theology) would be given the same cause celebre attention early in Christianity's development. Absence of early polemic signature writings and public debate speaks volumes about the illegitimacy of the Trinity doctrine. The OFFICIAL WRITTEN CREEDS expressing triune language start hitting the planet during political battles amongst Catholic clerics at the Constantine 325CE synod in Nicaea, Asia Minor.
Theory that the Trinity is a 300 year trickledown metamorphosis and therefore legitimate is false, it is not compatible with canonical authentic Jewish Christian theology.
Just as JWs can't force the name Jehovah into the Greek text to bolster their Yahwist religious fantasy, Trinitarians can't force tritheism into the Greek text to bolster their religious triune fantasy. Both beliefs are ideological inventions by men. Trinitarians are disciples of Athanasius, JWs are disciples of Rutherford. TIMING of each historic narrative debunks their claims to legitimacy. Trying to calibrate the NT with a Trinity calibration is a falsifiable reach too far.
Sidebar: "Through these he has given us his precious and wonderful promises, so that through them you may participate in the DIVINE NATURE, seeing that you have escaped the corruption that is in the world caused by evil desires." 2Pet 1:4
Jesus having "divine nature" does not make him equal with the Father, just as Christian "participating in divine nature" clearly doesn't make them equal with the Father. Jesus' divinity (god) and Christians divinity (gods) does not make these divinities equal to the Father, and if unequal automatically false divinities (false gods).
There is a divine class of legitimate gods of which the Father is supreme (has no God above him). Jesus is second rank (has the Father as his God, Re 3:12; 21:7 ). and Christians are a lower rank (with the Father as their God).
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Anointed Witnesses - is this a credible site ??
by *lost* inhow do i incorporate text to my post guys ??
can't copy and paste.. anyway digging around jwn searching for info on anointed and came across link to this web page.
so i'm assuming it's the wt org.
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*lost* you have a PM
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Are we all bitter?
by LouBelle ini posted a link on fb that lead to a topic here.
i then had one of my 'friends' start having a go about how bitter everyone is here....fact he said.
(he used to be a jw elder but left a while back, not sure why he left or if he has even researched the faith since leaving) the more i tried to reason with him that actually it is a support forum, the more he lashed out that everyone here bad mouths the jw's and only attack the jw's.
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No, I feel fortunate. More convinced than ever before that the Bible is true. The JW and RC meltdown is fulfillment of prophecy.
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Anointed Witnesses - is this a credible site ??
by *lost* inhow do i incorporate text to my post guys ??
can't copy and paste.. anyway digging around jwn searching for info on anointed and came across link to this web page.
so i'm assuming it's the wt org.
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QC
@lost
Text formatting for this forum is tricky. Mouse right-click-menu-paste, does not work.
Post "Submit" protocol is manual keyboard driven:
1) Copy = Ctrl-C
2) Paste = Ctrl-V
3) Cut = Ctrl-X
Easiest is to open and use Word for formatting and spellcheck:
1) Copy Word text (Ctrl-C)
2) Click "W" icon on JWN menu bar
3) Paste text into Word Paste box (that pops up)
4) Click "Insert", text will land in the JWN "Submit" section ready for posting
5) Also you can drag-and-drop text from Word into "Submit" section, and vice versa.
You can do simple formatting only (it's a little tedious):
Click "T" icon (repeat steps 1-4)
Also if you see a mistake that needs correction, in the top right corner there is a yellow pencil eraser icon. Click on it, it gives you 30 minutes to fix a mistake.
In regard to anointedjw.org, I think they should be part of the "anointed" conversation. All true Christian must be "born anew" anointed, which is a rebirth into the family of Jesus, the "eternal father." Populations of heaven and earth will all be "Sons of God." Here's a post on it.