Posts by QC

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Big Bang........ Big silence....

by snare&racket in

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i am 32, old enough to remember being told to refute the big bang as untrue by my parents and the religion they brought me up in.. it was a big decision for me even as a teen, i knew i was choosing a side, i remember my physics teacher laughing and mocking me and the other jw for denying the big bang.

our parents arranged that in our exams we were allowed to answer questions on the big bang in a unique manner:.

"scientists claim......... but as a jw i do not subscribe to this belief.".

QC

@snare

JWs are no longer relevant; they are not “the true religion.” More and more folks know this. So, what they think, or use to think, about science is a museum relic. Done. Over. Dusty.

And, Jews did not believe the earth was a flat circular disc in space. The only way the earth can appear as a circle from any point in space (God is ubiquitous) it would have to be a sphere.

Your trying to be clever creating straw man arguments isn’t working.

Many ex-JWs left the BORG because the “GB FDS” refuse to be "faithful" to Biblical as well as scientific truth. This brand of Christian won't go with you either down slippery slope silly reasoning.

We believe in the Big Bang.

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To believers: Is Blasphemy really the Unforgivable sin?

by cantleave in

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friends

mark 3:29 seems to indicate that this is so.. so please theists explain what is meant by this scripture?

is god really that petty?

do you believe that blasphemy is a greater sin than murder or paedophilia (which isn't even mentioned as a sin) or genocide?.

QC

BCat,

Once again, thanks for the clarity. I know of a household look'n for some of your skills. Pay is good.

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Interesting Findings from the ESA Plank Satellite

by cantleave in

the european space agency has produced a fascinating map of the universe using the super dooper plank satelite.. by stripping out dust emissions and radio frequencies from the milky way galaxy and more distant objects to leave just the afterglow of the big bang, an image of the microwave radiation (measured over a 15 month period) has been obtained that gives an extremely precise picture of the universe just 380,000 years after the big bang.. what we have learned from this data is the universe is some 80 million years older than we thought, the universe is made up of slightly more ordinary matter than was previously thought - 4.9% of all matter, up from 4.5% - and that there is less dark energy (which cosmologists don't understand) than previously thought and also it has an axis of evil (it appears the early universe was assymetrical) and a cold spot!!.

so we need to go back to the drawing board with regard to inflation theory to account for the asymmetry and cold spot.. this is why i love science, the more we learn, the more we have to learn.

btw, god sisn't show herself!.

QC

@EP

Three minutes and you're good to go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVsHjnY-o9s&feature=share&list=PLE9BC7364384A883F

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Interesting Findings from the ESA Plank Satellite

by cantleave in

the european space agency has produced a fascinating map of the universe using the super dooper plank satelite.. by stripping out dust emissions and radio frequencies from the milky way galaxy and more distant objects to leave just the afterglow of the big bang, an image of the microwave radiation (measured over a 15 month period) has been obtained that gives an extremely precise picture of the universe just 380,000 years after the big bang.. what we have learned from this data is the universe is some 80 million years older than we thought, the universe is made up of slightly more ordinary matter than was previously thought - 4.9% of all matter, up from 4.5% - and that there is less dark energy (which cosmologists don't understand) than previously thought and also it has an axis of evil (it appears the early universe was assymetrical) and a cold spot!!.

so we need to go back to the drawing board with regard to inflation theory to account for the asymmetry and cold spot.. this is why i love science, the more we learn, the more we have to learn.

btw, god sisn't show herself!.

QC

@lriddle80

science always changing, JW always changing...

Computers, internet, and cell phones have instant information about everything all the time. So changes come fast because information comes fast. Dan 12:4 says in "time of the end many will rush around,

while knowledge increases"; so this fast pace info must mean we are in the time of the end. :o) Look at all the good info here at JWN. Have you read Gentile Time Reconsidered? Download it here, item #9

@still thinking

understand string theory...I sort of do, but not really.

Wait a bit on String Theory. Follow the Higgs boson regular updates. They're trying to figure out what the spin is, 0 or 2. I'll keep you posted.

@EP

How do you know this?

That's what the Big Bang is, the beginning of the universe which includes time. That's definitive. Where have you been?

This will get you up to speed:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/history-universe.html

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Interesting Findings from the ESA Plank Satellite

by cantleave in

the european space agency has produced a fascinating map of the universe using the super dooper plank satelite.. by stripping out dust emissions and radio frequencies from the milky way galaxy and more distant objects to leave just the afterglow of the big bang, an image of the microwave radiation (measured over a 15 month period) has been obtained that gives an extremely precise picture of the universe just 380,000 years after the big bang.. what we have learned from this data is the universe is some 80 million years older than we thought, the universe is made up of slightly more ordinary matter than was previously thought - 4.9% of all matter, up from 4.5% - and that there is less dark energy (which cosmologists don't understand) than previously thought and also it has an axis of evil (it appears the early universe was assymetrical) and a cold spot!!.

so we need to go back to the drawing board with regard to inflation theory to account for the asymmetry and cold spot.. this is why i love science, the more we learn, the more we have to learn.

btw, god sisn't show herself!.

QC

@still thinking.

They were saying... return to some more simple theories and get rid of some of the more complex ones.

The Standard Model is not robust enough to explain mathematically dark holes, dark energy and dark matter, etc. So in 1984 physicist (John Schwarz and Michael Green) showed that String Theory is a player. It theorizes that everything material is made of strings, the final smallest particles. Hence, everything and everybody is part of a cosmic oscillating symphony. What's promising is the mathematics has the simplicity elegance hallmark of Relativity (Einstein) and Electro-Magnetism (Maxwell). But it's very, very speculative with its multiverse (parallel universe) notion.....hmmm.

Maxwell/Einstein

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Interesting Findings from the ESA Plank Satellite

by cantleave in

the european space agency has produced a fascinating map of the universe using the super dooper plank satelite.. by stripping out dust emissions and radio frequencies from the milky way galaxy and more distant objects to leave just the afterglow of the big bang, an image of the microwave radiation (measured over a 15 month period) has been obtained that gives an extremely precise picture of the universe just 380,000 years after the big bang.. what we have learned from this data is the universe is some 80 million years older than we thought, the universe is made up of slightly more ordinary matter than was previously thought - 4.9% of all matter, up from 4.5% - and that there is less dark energy (which cosmologists don't understand) than previously thought and also it has an axis of evil (it appears the early universe was assymetrical) and a cold spot!!.

so we need to go back to the drawing board with regard to inflation theory to account for the asymmetry and cold spot.. this is why i love science, the more we learn, the more we have to learn.

btw, god sisn't show herself!.

QC

@Satanus

things aren't that permanently nailed down, in this universe.

The subatomic particle world is permanent, which is the underpinning of everything physical in the universe. Nothing to worry about with the universe.

But earth with man and nukes; that's a situation.

@lriddle80

Scientific findings remind me of the "new light" that JW are coming up with. Always changing

Look at science in the way you look at America being discovered. We adjust to modernity. Life gets better.

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Interesting Findings from the ESA Plank Satellite

by cantleave in

the european space agency has produced a fascinating map of the universe using the super dooper plank satelite.. by stripping out dust emissions and radio frequencies from the milky way galaxy and more distant objects to leave just the afterglow of the big bang, an image of the microwave radiation (measured over a 15 month period) has been obtained that gives an extremely precise picture of the universe just 380,000 years after the big bang.. what we have learned from this data is the universe is some 80 million years older than we thought, the universe is made up of slightly more ordinary matter than was previously thought - 4.9% of all matter, up from 4.5% - and that there is less dark energy (which cosmologists don't understand) than previously thought and also it has an axis of evil (it appears the early universe was assymetrical) and a cold spot!!.

so we need to go back to the drawing board with regard to inflation theory to account for the asymmetry and cold spot.. this is why i love science, the more we learn, the more we have to learn.

btw, god sisn't show herself!.

QC

got it....hmmm

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Interesting Findings from the ESA Plank Satellite

by cantleave in

the european space agency has produced a fascinating map of the universe using the super dooper plank satelite.. by stripping out dust emissions and radio frequencies from the milky way galaxy and more distant objects to leave just the afterglow of the big bang, an image of the microwave radiation (measured over a 15 month period) has been obtained that gives an extremely precise picture of the universe just 380,000 years after the big bang.. what we have learned from this data is the universe is some 80 million years older than we thought, the universe is made up of slightly more ordinary matter than was previously thought - 4.9% of all matter, up from 4.5% - and that there is less dark energy (which cosmologists don't understand) than previously thought and also it has an axis of evil (it appears the early universe was assymetrical) and a cold spot!!.

so we need to go back to the drawing board with regard to inflation theory to account for the asymmetry and cold spot.. this is why i love science, the more we learn, the more we have to learn.

btw, god sisn't show herself!.

QC

Phizzy

Dark matter and Dark energy, are not really understoood at all

Yes

there are no real "fixed" Laws of nature and Physics etc,

No, constants are still there fixed e.g. speed of light, E=mc 2 , etc. CERN and satellites are getting additional info plus discovering new things like recent Higgs boson. Bottom line: we're getting more and more sharper understanding of how it all works; this means new layers of physics mathematics .

long established thought that there is a finite quantity of energy in the Universe

Yes, conservation of energy and matter laws are still fixed and working fine i.e. no net loss of energy or matter, universe is still a closed system in this regard.

expansion of the universe may go on for longer than once thought

Yes, we know the universe will never recoil, i.e. stop expanding and bounce back. So no bounce back crunch.

It's all very exciting!

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Does anyone think there was a great deliverance of the Hebrews from Egyptian captivity?

by humbled in

QC

Band,

Did you get my PM?

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Interesting Findings from the ESA Plank Satellite

by cantleave in

the european space agency has produced a fascinating map of the universe using the super dooper plank satelite.. by stripping out dust emissions and radio frequencies from the milky way galaxy and more distant objects to leave just the afterglow of the big bang, an image of the microwave radiation (measured over a 15 month period) has been obtained that gives an extremely precise picture of the universe just 380,000 years after the big bang.. what we have learned from this data is the universe is some 80 million years older than we thought, the universe is made up of slightly more ordinary matter than was previously thought - 4.9% of all matter, up from 4.5% - and that there is less dark energy (which cosmologists don't understand) than previously thought and also it has an axis of evil (it appears the early universe was assymetrical) and a cold spot!!.

so we need to go back to the drawing board with regard to inflation theory to account for the asymmetry and cold spot.. this is why i love science, the more we learn, the more we have to learn.

btw, god sisn't show herself!.

QC

Quantum Leap

Einstein dismissed this science. This dismissal causes him to fail to lock in on "The Theory of Everything", which is unification of the laws of General Relativity (world of the planetary stupendously large) with the laws of Quantum Mechanics (world of the atomic infinitesimally small). A blackhole is proof of this unification.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbIcg0XsbFQ