Posts by QC

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Bart Ehrman: Paul Viewed Jesus Christ as an Angel.

by Emery in

in his upcomming book, "how jesus became god" bart ehrman has a new view on how paul viewed jesus.

since i am a huge bart ehrman fan i am a member of his blog site, http://ehrmanblog.org link to direct blog entry: http://ehrmanblog.org/pauls-view-of-jesus-as-an-angel-for-members/.

there he made a recent blog entry where he argues that paul viewed jesus to be an angel according to galations 4:14. .

QC

@Comatose: sorry, got you by mistake, my bad.

@DMason

Paul "speaks quite contemptuously of them (James, Cephas, and John)."

I disagree:

YLT Ga 2:9 "Having known the grace that was given to me, James, and Cephas, and John, who were esteemed to be pillars, a right hand of fellowship they did give to me, and to Barnabas, that we to the nations, and they to the circumcision may go"

Luke was written some 60 to 90 years after Paul had died.... "Paul could not have read the Gospels since they were written after his death."

I disagree:

Paul and Peter are martyrs in Rome c. 64-69 C.E. The 4 Gosples were complete before then, only possible exception is John.

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Bart Ehrman: Paul Viewed Jesus Christ as an Angel.

by Emery in

in his upcomming book, "how jesus became god" bart ehrman has a new view on how paul viewed jesus.

since i am a huge bart ehrman fan i am a member of his blog site, http://ehrmanblog.org link to direct blog entry: http://ehrmanblog.org/pauls-view-of-jesus-as-an-angel-for-members/.

there he made a recent blog entry where he argues that paul viewed jesus to be an angel according to galations 4:14. .

QC

@Yadda

"The theory goes"

Interesting post, but “theory goes” can’t be taken as creditable Biblical evidence. You agree?

"Mark was written, the writer himself a pagan convert"

ALL Bible writers are Jews, not one was a pagan gentile convert.

"Moses...received living words to pass on to us [Jews];" Acts 7:38 "Advantage...in being a Jew...Jews have been ENTRUSTED with the very words of god." Ro 3:1-2 NIV

@Comatose

Paul "speaks quite contemptuously of them (James, Cephas, and John)."

I disagree:

YLT Ga 2:9 "Having known the grace that was given to me, James , and Cephas , and John , who were esteemed to be pillars, a right hand of fellowship they did give to me, and to Barnabas, that we to the nations, and they to the circumcision may go"

"Paul could not have read the Gospels since they were written after his death."

I disagree:

Paul and Peter are martyrs in Rome c. 64-69 C.E. The 4 Gosples were complete before then, only possible exception is John.

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Hubble deep field photograph

by ballistic in

jw
friends

i have always found the hubble deep field photograph, apparently hubbles most important photograph, very interesting.. for those of you who don't know, it's a long exposure or series of long exposures taken over many months of an otherwise completely empty and black region of space.. i was reading some info on it from the uk physicist brian cox, and he explains another dimension to it.. when you look at the deep field photograph, you are seeing a true 3d picture.

each galaxy in the picture are vast distances apart.

some relatively near, some almost the entire edge of the galaxy away.

QC

Note this:

In our homes, wherever, we all have flipped through our TV remote control and found channels with white noisy snow, that piercing SNOW is the background radiation left over from the Big Bang 13.8 billion year ago.

This is empirical observational first hand personal proof for the Big Bang cosmos beginning, the most important event in the universe.

Dissonantly sobering!

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Did Jesus Use Gods Personal Name?

by Comatose in

the wt says yes.

i looked it up a few weeks ago and they said "we can be sure he used his fathers name".

for me the argument is more just interesting from a biblical and academic stand point.

QC

@extractor

Like a dead clock, right twice a day, JWs (like most religions) can have some things correct.

But we know at their core they have an agenda that’s toxic; it is a facade, a religious kabuki real-estate empire with few smattering of truth.

Dangerous!

So what do we do about this? We simply collect and believe all the nuggets of truth, avoid the false religious agenda traps, and serve God faithfully. It does take diligence.

This is how all the faithful "saints" in the past did it. Such faithful are gathered in God spiritual temple and rewarded.

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Bart Ehrman: Paul Viewed Jesus Christ as an Angel.

by Emery in

in his upcomming book, "how jesus became god" bart ehrman has a new view on how paul viewed jesus.

since i am a huge bart ehrman fan i am a member of his blog site, http://ehrmanblog.org link to direct blog entry: http://ehrmanblog.org/pauls-view-of-jesus-as-an-angel-for-members/.

there he made a recent blog entry where he argues that paul viewed jesus to be an angel according to galations 4:14. .

QC

Jesus doesn't see it that way. He's content with being the " SON of God." It's always been that way.

Our job is to pay attention to details, like YOU pay attention to legal brief facts of a case.

Facts of this case:

Remember?

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Bart Ehrman: Paul Viewed Jesus Christ as an Angel.

by Emery in

in his upcomming book, "how jesus became god" bart ehrman has a new view on how paul viewed jesus.

since i am a huge bart ehrman fan i am a member of his blog site, http://ehrmanblog.org link to direct blog entry: http://ehrmanblog.org/pauls-view-of-jesus-as-an-angel-for-members/.

there he made a recent blog entry where he argues that paul viewed jesus to be an angel according to galations 4:14. .

QC

Strong's 32 aggelos ang'-el-os from aggello; a messenger; especially an "angel"; by implication, a pastor:--angel, messenger.

NIV Gal 4:14 "and even though my illness was a trial to you, you did not treat me with contempt or scorn. Instead, you welcomed me as if I were an angel of God, as if I were Christ Jesus himself."

ESV "and though my condition was a trial to you, you did not scorn or despise me, but received me as an angel of God, as Christ Jesus."

AV Lk 1:38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel aggelos departed from her.

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What about your vow to Jehovah?

by a watcher in

did you get baptized without being dedicated?.

why did you allow men to come between you and jehovah?.

why were you serving jehovah at all?

QC

somethings not right.

Of course it's a spoof. Why would a "vow to Jehovah" person want to go round and round with x-Jdubs? Doesn't add up!

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What about your vow to Jehovah?

by a watcher in

did you get baptized without being dedicated?.

why did you allow men to come between you and jehovah?.

why were you serving jehovah at all?

QC

watcher,

Come back anytime. Eventually you will connect the dots, everyone here did in their own time frame.

We enjoy exchanging thoughts.

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What about your vow to Jehovah?

by a watcher in

did you get baptized without being dedicated?.

why did you allow men to come between you and jehovah?.

why were you serving jehovah at all?

QC

cofty,

Amen... where are you, road to Demascus?

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The significance and purpose of BAPTISM - new article

by EdenOne in

ive just published a new article on my website, this time about about the subject of baptism.

its titled the significance and purpose of baptism.

its divided in 5 parts:.

QC

@Eden

THE SIGNIFICANCE AND PURPOSE OF BAPTISM

Enjoyed your article.

The contrast between spirit "born anew" sons of God vs. "born of flesh" sons of Adam is becoming quite clear as "knowledge is multiplied." Dan 12:4, 10

We live in very interesting times!