Lambs: "But I say this religion (even though its always been 'sick') is slowly dying."
I agree totally.
It will be a sudden collapse; similar to the collapse of Evolution and religion generally.
i don't understand why so many ex jws and faders think that the jws will continue to grow and thrive as a religion.
i still attend a meeting once a week and you can smell the death of the religion creeping up when you hear the talks, read the study wts and hear the letters from the gb.
the way the organization has changed is a sign that it reached its peak (in "healthy" membership) long ago.
Lambs: "But I say this religion (even though its always been 'sick') is slowly dying."
I agree totally.
It will be a sudden collapse; similar to the collapse of Evolution and religion generally.
i spent a couple of hours trying to work out the poetic structure of john 1:1-18. i have made my first rough draft available as a word document so that others can amend it for themselves.
the text i used is from the niv.
it will be interesting to see the poetic structures produced by analyses of other translations.. http://www.jwstudies.com/chiasms_of_john_1_vv_1_to_18.docx.
Koine Greek NT vs Sahidic Comptic NT
Unlike the Koine Greek NT text use of only definite articles, the Sahidic Coptic NT text uses both definite and indefinite articles to differentiate, in the same way English grammar uses definite and indefinite articles to differentiate. John 1:1b, the god, definite article, “ p. ” ( the ), expresses singular identity of a person or thing; while John 1:1c uses a god, where the indefinite article “ u. ” ( a ) differentiates, emphasizing character, nature, essence or quality of a person or thing.
John 1:1, Sahidic Coptic NT text, 2 nd century AD:
(John 1:1a)
ϨΝ ΤЄϨ ΟΥЄΙΤЄ ΝЄϤϢΟΟΠ ΝϬΙ ΠϢΑϪЄ
Hn te.houeite ne.f.shoopngi p.shaje
In the beginning was the word
εν αρχή ην ο λόγος
(John1:1b)
ΑΥШ ΠϢΑϪЄ ΝЄϤϢΟΟΠ ΝΝΑϨΡΜ ΠΝΟΥΤЄ
Auw p.shaje ne.f.shoop n.nahrm p. noute (Transliteration)
And the word was in the presence of the god
και ο λόγος ην προς τον θεόν (Koine Greek)
(John 1:1c)
ΑΥШ ΝЄΥΝΟΥΤЄ ΠЄ ΠϢΑϪЄ
Auw ne. u. noute pe p.shaje (Transliteration)
And was a god is the word
και θεός ην ο λόγος (Koine Greek)
atheists want there to be no god.
absolutely false!
atheists i have met arent evil, but very moral.
Preston,
As global godlessness reaches critical mass, you will see a paradigm shift.
Hardwired in you is the ability to recognize what’s next.
It's what you are looking for—void of JWism and Darwinism.
Stay tuned.
september 11, 2001. riding the bus to school that tuesday morning we discussed the implications of the monday night football game between the broncos and the dolphins.
by lunchtime our entire world have changed dramatically.
america had passed into a new era that would lead to major changes.
kneehi: I believe the organization will no longer exist in its current form in 10 years.
Yes
Money and membership is drying up. They are trending like Evolution, religion generally and global warming.
Toward desperation!
if you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.
this is a game changer.
the bomb!.
In straight and level flight lift (L) equals weight (W). In a banked turn of 60°, lift equals double the weight (L=2W). The pilot experiences 2g and a doubled weight. The steeper the bank, the greater the g-forces.
bohm,
For about 100 years, G-forces (3-5 g's) have been impacting the human anatomy for the first time, as airplanes negotiate the airspace enveloping Earth (up to 35-40,000 ft.).
Evolution is not even in this conversation. 100 years is no time for it to do its thing. Throw in 6,000 or 50,000 years, still no time.
But voila! No problem, a DESIGNER anticipating man would fly one day, inoculates him to withstand the G-force rigors from steep banking airplanes.
Now do you get it?
Thanks for being the helpful antagonist (devil’s advocate) straight-man.
if you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.
this is a game changer.
the bomb!.
How is it that the human body instantly has this gorgeous sophisticated physiologic G-suit mechanism (i.e. tolerate up to 3–5 g’s, ever since man began to fly, in 1903), no time for “natural selection” piecemeal antecedents (gradualism predicted by Evolution)?
Proving environmental pressure did not craft this G-suit capacity. It's design by a genius.
In the market place of ideas, science drives ANOTHER nail in the coffin of Darwinism:
“A Biological G-Suit
…Humans have baroreceptors in the sinuses of the carotid arteries that detect changes in blood (hydraulic) pressure. If these receptors detect a sudden drop in pressure, they emit a signal to the brainstem via the glossopharengeal nerve. After several connections and pathways, some excitatory and some inhibitory, activity of the sympathetic branch of the autonomic nervous system increases and constricts the arteries (vasoconstriction) in the bilateral lower extremities.
And like the air bladders in a pilot’s g-suit, this constriction impedes the flow of arterial blood traveling down the body and forces the blood in the upper arterial system higher into the neck and head, thus avoiding syncope. 1 Sound familiar? Additionally, the heart is signaled to beat faster, thereby increasing cardiac output.
A Result of Evolution—or Design?
Such a complex integrated function presents a challenge to Darwinian evolution, which requires generating such a system in a piecemeal fashion. However, without the detectors (baroreceptors), the regulators (command and control), the integrators (neural communication systems), the actuators (the muscularized arteries and adjustable heart rate), and the necessity (maintaining consciousness/perfusion to the brain) all at the same time and in the same organism—and all of it working at a velocity suitable to the condition/stimulus (defined performance specifications)—then the function cannot work. To draw from biochemist Michael Behe, the human body’s g-suit function is “irreducibly complex.” But the evolutionary mystery only gets deeper.
Another enormous difficulty for the evolutionary paradigm is the fact that humans demonstrate a physiologic capacity (to tolerate up to 3–5 g’s) that is useful to us now, but which theoretically evolved without an environmental pressure to enable or “guide” natural selection. How then can strictly naturalistic processes account for the human organism evolving or adapting such a function to begin with? We do not experience high dynamic states except as an artifact of the modern Western industrial revolution. To have evolved this capacity seems impossible.
A simple solution to this conundrum posits design by an intelligent creator with foreknowledge of the experiences that humans would encounter in their later history as a species. After all, we know that the g-suit created for aviators required thought, planning, and design by human agents. Both the very existence of humanity’s built-in g-suit function and the function’s irreducible complexity make much better sense from a creation model perspective.” http://tnrtb.wordpress.com/2014/04/28/humanitys-built-in-g-suit-a-product-of-evolution-or-creation/
By Dr. Eddy M. del Rio, received his MD from Saint Louis University
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJKuKEnubf4 (4 min)
WayOut: Y'all see why I don't stay with these threads anymore?
It's OK, you'll be fine. You're bit confused.
Note x-dub must see: Darwin’s Dilemma, Cambrian explosion up close, you are there (prior page 16).
This is the definitive documentary on the recent Cambrian Explosion finds. Evolution Paleontologist Simmon Conway Morris is one of its narrators.
Outstanding!
this was meant to have nice inserted pictures and tidy hyperlinks but the forum's being glitchy today.
so unfortunately it's going to be a messy post where you're going to have to exercise your tapping fingers and click on the links to the pics to see what i'm referring to.
sorry about that.. in the article recently studied "do this in remembrance of me" (w13 12/15), there is a box on p. 23 giving the date of this year's memorial and how that date is arrived at.. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2013926.
So, to be authentic, the Memrial celebration would have to be done before Monday NOON, April 14th. Past AM Monday, noon, you are celebating the Memorial on Nisan 15.
That's a big deal. A big mistake!
this was meant to have nice inserted pictures and tidy hyperlinks but the forum's being glitchy today.
so unfortunately it's going to be a messy post where you're going to have to exercise your tapping fingers and click on the links to the pics to see what i'm referring to.
sorry about that.. in the article recently studied "do this in remembrance of me" (w13 12/15), there is a box on p. 23 giving the date of this year's memorial and how that date is arrived at.. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2013926.
Correct, using a calendar conversion. Very interesting.
Nisan 14, 7:30 pm (Hebrew calendar, 12h format) is Sunday April 13, 19:30 (Gregorian calendar, 24h format)
Thanks Ann
if you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.
this is a game changer.
the bomb!.
WayOut: Words from Neil DeGrasse Tyson, " The theory of evolution -- like the theory of gravity -- is a scientific fact."
Eyes can’t see what the mind doesn’t know, and ears can’t hear what the mind doesn’t know.
Bottom line? Many are not ready, YET , to see or hear (understand) how it is that Evolution is flat out wrong.
But this time will come for everyone.
Just like we all came to understand (got past our cognitive dissonance) how it is JWs are wrong.
(Yes, DeGrasse, Dawkins, Hawking, Darwin, Maher, Jon Stewart and cofty, etc., are all wrong! Evolution is not a SCIENTIFIC fact; Monkeys, Apes, Trilobites, single cells, etc... don’t morph into humans, EVER. )
if you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.
this is a game changer.
the bomb!.
Jon, Viviane, Caedes and Slip:
Guys, this thread is encouragement, you have time to rethink your positions. We're seeing more and more evidence there is a God.
As you rethink stir clear of crippling distractions:
1 Evolution
2 JW GB leadership
3 4th century theology
4 Hatred of God
5 Hatred of neighbor