Posts by QC

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Jesus had to have been born 4 to 10 BCE or history is incorrect.....

by EndofMysteries in

i was looking up some unrelated things and came upon this.

herod the great(who jesus was hid from), herod archelaus(after he began rule jesus returned to nazareth), and herod antipas(who killed john the baptist).

when herod the great died, those two sons from all historical sources are showing to have ruled from 4bc onwards.

QC

Confluence of Data Affirms Jesus Birth is circa Tishri 1 (September 8) of BC 2

Zachariah, the father of John the Baptist, was a priest "of the course of Abia (Abijah)" according to Luke 1:5. There are 24 courses [divisions each with six families to perform festal sacrificial services] of priests according to I Chronicles 24. Abijah's course (division) was the 8th course among the 24 courses. When the Jewish Temple was destroyed by the Roman Governor Titus on August 5, 70 AD, the first course of priests had just taken office. By tracing back carefully, the 8th course would have ended their duties on Av 11 (July 13), BC 4. The birth of John the Baptist would be 280 days (9 months and 10 days gestation) later, circa Nisan 4 (March 20) BC 3. The birth of Yeshua (Jesus) would have been six months later (Luke 1:36) in the fall circa Tishri 1 (September 8), which is the beginning of year BC 2. When the Persian Magi came to give gifts (after Herod co-opts them to locate Jesus) Jesus was living in a house, no longer living in a manger. (Mt 2:11) Joseph and Mary flee to Egypt after an angel warns them of Herod's plot to kill Jesus.(Mt 2:13) Upon news of Herod's death, on Shevat 11 (January 14) BC 1, they return to Judea. Arrival back to Judea was circa Elul 29 (August 27) which is the end of year BC 1 when Jesus was about 2 years of age.

This fits 29 CE timeline for when Jesus began his ministry and 33 CE for when he was crucified. Herod's death is key to sorting this out.

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Witness Speak: the worst of collection

by grumblecakes in

jw
friends

so we all know the jw vocabulary is a weird one.

what words or phrases bugged you the most?.

a few of mine:.

QC

Mind Control Devices

Jeehovah's Organization:

Illegitimate coopting of Jehovah; JO is placed above Jesus' Christian congregation, and is one of the cruelest hoaxes in the history of the world

I trouble (lack humility):

Platform salvo to JWs with a pattern of questioning the scriptural merit of a doctrine or policy

Wait on Jehovah:

Nice way of saying JC authority will deal with those who don't get in line with doctrine and policy

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New Governing Body Member: Hugo Riemer - More WT Revisionist History

by 00DAD in

as part of the wt's recent push to get the r&f "to study and recount the history of the earthly part of jehovahs organization" there is a curious article in the from our archives featurette of the august 15th, 2012 watchtower.

it offers a highly sanitized version of early jw history.

but what is particularly strange is this revisionist history re-categorizing of an early bible student/jw, one hugo riemer.

QC

@King Solomon: that was simultaneous

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New Governing Body Member: Hugo Riemer - More WT Revisionist History

by 00DAD in

as part of the wt's recent push to get the r&f "to study and recount the history of the earthly part of jehovahs organization" there is a curious article in the from our archives featurette of the august 15th, 2012 watchtower.

it offers a highly sanitized version of early jw history.

but what is particularly strange is this revisionist history re-categorizing of an early bible student/jw, one hugo riemer.

QC

Oh, I got it...JWnet

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New Governing Body Member: Hugo Riemer - More WT Revisionist History

by 00DAD in

as part of the wt's recent push to get the r&f "to study and recount the history of the earthly part of jehovahs organization" there is a curious article in the from our archives featurette of the august 15th, 2012 watchtower.

it offers a highly sanitized version of early jw history.

but what is particularly strange is this revisionist history re-categorizing of an early bible student/jw, one hugo riemer.

QC

(Forum newbie for couple months learning your lingo)

I’m guessing JWN stands for JW news, correct?

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This is RayPublisher I need suggestions for captions on these pics!

by RayPublisher in

we were goofing around at the pier and took some photos a few days ago.

here's the first one i was thinking of captioning:.

here's the second one- i added a caption but am not completely happy with it:.

QC

Take Two

1st: Wow! All the fish in that net, Dannnnnng!!

2nd: Not gon'a beleive this, I just walked on WATER!!!

Get it?

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This is RayPublisher I need suggestions for captions on these pics!

by RayPublisher in

we were goofing around at the pier and took some photos a few days ago.

here's the first one i was thinking of captioning:.

here's the second one- i added a caption but am not completely happy with it:.

QC

1st: The fish in that net, dang!

2nd: You're not gon'a beleive this, I just walked on water!

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holding off on my baptism???

by madcow78596 in

jw
friends

so i've been studying with jws since april 2011.

1 year later i decide to become an unbaptized publisher and take steps toward dedicating myself to jehovah.

i'm a single working mother of 2 with what i will call a very "colored" past.

QC

@madcow78596

While they are wooing you, that is the best it will ever get. It is downhill from there. Be smart; be a cafeteria JW for a while. Accept the positives for your family. Some of doctrinal fundamentals have value. But it’s mostly window dressing. Getting control of your mind is what their after. They want you to be a female that is a frighteningly submissive Stepford Wife. Scary!

Keep in mind, right now that religious structure is flux. Meaning, they have credibility issues touting themselves as “The True Religion.” They are “tap dancing’ their deceptive doctrines and policies history, creating a plausible spin the gullible hangers-on will accept, and most will.

Use this forum as a filter to sort out stuff. We’ll help you anytime.

Check out my website, http://www.laissezcom.com/. It is therapy to help me get past JWs.

QC

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IS TIME RUNNING OUT for this generation?

by Londo111 in

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QC

sorry

I'm not an apologist for JWs. I must say though, "as the days of Noah--so shall be also the presence of the Son of Man" (Mt 24:37). Doing the math according to the days of Noah:

Noah warned his generation circa 100 years. We are approaching 100 year since 1914 in 2014. JWs generation calibration of 70-80 for a generation is a misfire. According to The Centenarian website the centenarian population on earth in 2014 will be around 400,000-450,000.

That’s plenty enough senior peers to fulfill that prophecy. Modern miracle drugs extending longevity is the x-factor trip wire unaccounted causing the JW debacle of1975. That factor accounted for makes Mt 24:37 100 year 1914 generation in play.

Interesting, the JW religious invention is exposed as false, while at the same time, quite possibly, that prophecy is going to arrive on time according to 1914.

I’m just say’n.

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IS TIME RUNNING OUT for this generation?

by Londo111 in

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QC

I'm not an apologist for JWs. I must say though, "as the days of Noah--so shall be also the presence of the Son of Man" (Mt 24:37). Doing the math according to the days of Noah:

Noah warned his generation circa 100 years. We are approaching 100 year since 1914 in 2014. JWs generation calibration of 70-80 for a generation is a misfire. According to The Centenarian website the centenarian population on earth in 2014 will be around 400,000-450,000.

That’s plenty enough senior peers to fulfill that prophecy. Modern miracle drugs extending longevity is the x-factor trip wire unaccounted for causing the JW debacle of1975. That factor accounted for puts the Mt 24:37 100 year 1914 generation in play.

Interesting, the JW religious invention is exposed as false, while at the same time possibly that prophecy could arrive fulfilled on time in the 1914 context.

I’m just say’n.