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When You Learned TTATT, the truth about the truth(tm) How Did It Make You Feel?

by LoisLane looking for Superman in

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i felt stunned.

i felt betrayed.. just lois.

QC

embarrassed

searched a fix

found a fix

very happy

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Another probe of the Governing Body theory

by QC in

note the activity topology of spiritually "gifted" faithful religiously pure network of individual christians sustaining the therapeia (qerapeiavhousehold for spiritual cure) lu 12:42under the leadership of jesus in heaven.

all accomplished by autonomous ecclesia without central control from jerusalem.

this is the model antecedent for today's class of individual "faithful discreet" slaves.

QC

Restoration:

Note the activity topology of spiritually "gifted" faithful religiously pure network of individual Christians sustaining the therapeia ( qerapeiaV household for spiritual cure) Lu 12:42 under the leadership of Jesus in heaven. All accomplished by autonomous ecclesia without central control from Jerusalem. This is the model antecedent for today's class of individual "faithful discreet" slaves. Mat 24:45-51; Lu 12:41-47

No Jerusalem GB c. AD34-AD37
Paul's conversion came via Ananias "laid hands" on him followed by baptism to become the apostle to the Gentiles. After this Paul c.AD 37 says, "After three years I went up to Jerusalem to visit Cephas (Peter) and remained with him fifteen days. But I saw none of the other apostles except James the Lord's brother." Ga 1:18-19

No Jerusalem GB c AD 48
It was Paul who reproved Peter for being aloof to Gentiles. "When Cephas (Peter) came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned...he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. The other Jews joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray. When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in front of them all, You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs?" Ga 2:11-14 Peter accept Paul's counsel. Peter, Paul and James lead in resolving the circumcision dispute.

No Jerusalem GB c. AD 49
It was apostles, elders and pillars from Antioch and Judea that assembled ONCE in Jerusalem in order to resolve the circumcision dispute, because Judea is ground zero for Judaizer (Pharisee converts) proponents for circumcision. Ac 15:1-30

No Jerusalem GB
The Ephesus autonomous ecclesia is where Luke wrote AD 58-63 the books of Acts and Luke. As well, Ephesus is where John wrote AD 68-100 letters bearing his name 1John, 2John, 3John ; then pens the Gospel John and book of Revelation calling out seven ecclesia-Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea-while he is in exile on the isle of Patmos; a depiction warning all Christians to remain faithful and ready themselves for the cataclysm at Jesus' second coming. Rv 1-3 And, at Ephesus INDIVIDUALS Priscilla and Aquila informs prominent eloquent evangelist Apollos with a better understanding of God. Ac 18:24-26

No Jerusalem GB AD 46-58
Antioch autonomous ecclesia is hub for three of the four missionary journeys of Paul-covering regions of Palestine, Syria, Turkey, Macedonia and Italy. And, it was Antioch where the prophet Agabus foretold a famine during the reign of Tiberius Claudius Caesar; elders of Antioch instruct Paul and Barnabas to deliver relief to Judea. Also, Antioch is first to coin the name "Christian" by divine intuition.

There is no evidence Christian Greek writings are funneled to a Jerusalem "Governing Body." From Rome Peter pens his two books. 1Pe,2Pe As well, from Rome Paul pens six of his fourteen books, 2Tm, He, Php, Eph, Phm, Col ; plus eight from other cities: one from Antioch Ga ; two from Ephesus, 1Co, 2Co ; three from Corinth Ro, 1Th, 2Th and two from Nicopolis. Tit, 1Tm Jesus ratified those writings via the holy spirit from heaven.

This illustrates that the Society's terms, "Jehovah's organization", "faithful discreet slave" and "Governing Body," are myths unsupported by the NT topology chronicle along the Mediterranean rim from Jerusalem to Rome.

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Bobcat, give me your take on this

by QC in

bcat, looks like jesus is not michael.

i just shared this with new member "lost".

if this is correct it's another big eye opener for the jw r&f.

QC

BCat,

Delay is fine. We're on your schedule.

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Where to begin?

by DATA-DOG in

jw
friends

good morning everyone,.

i am drinking coffee and thinking about something that kept my tossing and turning all night.

i want to tell my wife, the elders, my friends, that i have been watching a pattern develope within the wtbts for years, and that i love them all but feel that tha wtbts has become a mirror of ancient jerusalem when they strayed.

QC

@DD

If you have strong family attachments and they don't agree with your position, you might be opening a can of worms, unnecessary grief. I would fade until your family is on the same page. That might come sooner than you think.

FYI, I went to a KH (Spanish) for the memorial because I wanted to experience the festivity. The importance of partaking made me feel great. It was sad though to see so many people clueless. I was the only one partaking out of about 250.

Everyone seemed like tourist passing through a museum, unfriendly. Strange.

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Bobcat, give me your take on this

by QC in

bcat, looks like jesus is not michael.

i just shared this with new member "lost".

if this is correct it's another big eye opener for the jw r&f.

QC

bttt

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Bobcat, give me your take on this

by QC in

bcat, looks like jesus is not michael.

i just shared this with new member "lost".

if this is correct it's another big eye opener for the jw r&f.

QC

@DD

I disagree; WWI & WWII is monumental world instability, "nation against nation kingdom against kingdom." Truly beacon lights flashing, we are headed for something dire.

And, simultaneously JW leadership is on the wrong side of this issue CHOOSING to practice “evil” deceptions and blasphemy of God's name.

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Bobcat, give me your take on this

by QC in

bcat, looks like jesus is not michael.

i just shared this with new member "lost".

if this is correct it's another big eye opener for the jw r&f.

QC

Hi Lost,

Make sure you read this post. It answers one of your queries.

Hi DD

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Bobcat, give me your take on this

by QC in

bcat, looks like jesus is not michael.

i just shared this with new member "lost".

if this is correct it's another big eye opener for the jw r&f.

QC

@pixel

Yes, here it is also,

Ac 2:30 "God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne... 31 he spoke of the resurrection of the Christ.... 32 God has raised this Jesus to life.... 33 Exalted to the right hand of God...received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. 34 "'The Lord said to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand 35 until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet."'

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Bobcat, give me your take on this

by QC in

bcat, looks like jesus is not michael.

i just shared this with new member "lost".

if this is correct it's another big eye opener for the jw r&f.

QC

But the "full end of the age" could begin in 1914, WWI & WWII, etc. ... culminatiing in Armaggeddon.

YLT Mt 24:3 And when he is sitting on the mount of the Olives, the disciples came near to him by himself, saying, 'Tell us, when shall these be? and what is the sign of thy presence, and of the full end of the age?'

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Bobcat, give me your take on this

by QC in

bcat, looks like jesus is not michael.

i just shared this with new member "lost".

if this is correct it's another big eye opener for the jw r&f.

QC

BCat, looks like Jesus is not Michael. I just shared this with new member "lost". If this is correct it's another big eye opener for the JW R&F. Misapplication of 1914 once again. So the "end" began in 33C.E. when Jesus was resurrected and installed as king.

Between 32-33 C.E. before Jesus death Satan is cast out when Jesus sent his disciple on their first Christian ministry.

Lu 10:17 The seventy returned with joy, saying, "Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.
18 "I was watching Satan fall from heaven like lightning.
19 "Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing will injure you.
20 "Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rejoice that your names are recorded in heaven."
22 "All things have been handed over to Me by My Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, and who the Father is except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him."

Rev12:7 And there came war in the heaven; Michael and his messengers did war against the dragon, and the dragon did war, and his messengers
9 and the great dragon was cast forth--the old serpent, who is called 'Devil,' and 'the Adversary,' who is leading astray the whole world--he was cast forth to the earth, and his messengers were cast forth with him.
10 And I heard a great voice saying in the heaven, 'Now did come the salvation, and the power, and the reign, of our God, and the authority of His Christ, because cast down was the accuser of our brethren, who is accusing them before our God day and night;