Posts by ruderedhead

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More JW bragging about the Landover, MD. convention. Please have barf bag at the ready before reading

by AndDontCallMeShirley in

the following e-mail is circulating among jws about the international convention at fedex stadium in landover, md.

note the all-too-familiar jw claims: everything they do (including the simple act of parking cars) is proof of jehovah'stm blessing, and everything wt did at the convention was the fastest, greatest, best ever.

oh, and the never-fails-to-get-mentioned alleged 'persecution'/resistance from some unnamed authority who tried to get in watchtower's way and hamper the effort...but jws prevailed anyway (as always):.

ruderedhead

These guys are so full of themselves it's pathetic!

I remember the one time way back in the days when they had them at the Pontiac Silverdome in Michigan, one time, in I believe in the '90's, they decided to save the money they had to pay the police to direct the traffic out on a Friday. IDIOTS! IT WAS A DISASTER!

The police can control the flow of traffic on the roads outside the venue as well as inside. The idiots who were trying to direct the flow out of the Silverdome had no such authority, had NO fricking idea what they were doing, and it took HOURS to get out of the parking lot, where normally it would take less than an hour. They would allow one lane to go inside the parking lot, forgetting about the other two trying to go. The police were actually lined up across the street, in case things went wrong and they were needed. You could actually see them laughing. The next day the police were back directing, I can't remember the lame ass excuse they gave for paying them again. But I believe attendance was down that day, aSaturday!

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Father denies children inheritance unless they quit Jehovah's Witnesses

by Tiktaalik in

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an article in the sydney morning herald:.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/father-denies-children-inheritance-unless-they-quit-jehovahs-witnesses-and-become-catholics-20140810-102egl.html#ixzz39yziuuvf.

"from beyond the grave, father-of-four patrick carroll continued a five-decade crusade to steer his children away from being active jehovah's witnesses and into catholicism.. mr carroll wrote into his will that his adult children were not to receive any inheritance unless they met two conditions: attend his funeral and become catholics within three months of his death.. mr carroll died in april 2012. his children attended the funeral but they did not become catholics and challenged the condition in the nsw supreme court in a bid to still receive their share of his estate.. but justice francois kunc last week ruled that mr carroll was entitled to place such conditions on his will.. the court heard that mr carroll's motivation was not so much about imposing his own beliefs but rather the fact he never approved of his children becoming jehovah's witness.. the court heard that mr carroll did not raise his children as catholics, neither he or they had attended church services when they were young and he did not enroll them in catholic schools.. but when he split from their mother lillian in 1959 she became a jehovah's witness and over the next decade the couple's four children, robyn, paulene, anthony and susan, were baptised as jehovah's witnesses.. mr carroll never approved of "their adherence to that faith", the court heard.. "[lillian's] conversion to that faith enraged mr carroll, who for the rest of his life continued to express his very strong objections to lillian's and the children's member of that faith," justice kunc said in his judgement.. the court was told that all four of his children remain active members of their congregation.. in his will, written in december 2011, four months before he died, mr carroll left more than a third of his estate to his four children "dependent upon them becoming baptised into the catholic church within a period of three months from the date of my death and such gifts are also subject to and dependent my children attending my funeral.".

ruderedhead

Sounds like Dad might have had some control issues! It was mean, but they are all rock stars at their halls now.

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My First Post!

by NoMoreHustle in

i won't be lengthy on this.

i have been in the org for about 20yrs.

now & woke up about 2yrs ago.

ruderedhead

Welcome, nomore!

I'm sure no one has to tell you to take it slow with your family. Please ask them questions rather than making statements when talking about the cult.

All the best on your fade!

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My wife sees the lack of love and.. Any suggestions on how to proceed?

by BU2B in

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in the past few weeks, my wife has been seeing more and more the lack of love and caring from jws.

for example, she is organizing a "princess party" for our 4 year old daughter.

a couple of the parents have expressed reservations about this since they think princesses may be "too magical" even though we know they have been to disneyworld, and watch the disney channel.

ruderedhead

Awww, that is just so ridiculous, esp if these people have been to Disneyland and watch the movies! These are small children, and I think even they could see the hypocrisy of their parents!

I really hope you can get enough kids to come so your little girl won't be disappointed. This bunch sounds like some judgemental a**holes, trying to look pious in front of each other. What onearth is magical about a princess party? Every little girl wants to be a princess.

You have been given some sound advice here, I can't add much except to say I hope after you are done with the cult book, you will find a way to get your wife and daughter out. Just go slowly so you don't scare her!

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If you thought Tony Moris the Third was extreme, wait till you hear this other GB member!

by Island Man in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqzc2m8_mba&list=uus0vqkpnsxult0gsz6ahpta.

ruderedhead

Couldn't finish listening to it. Got a headache and threw up 2 minutes in. is this for real?

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Just curious...how did you find Jehovah's Witness Net?

by cultBgone in

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the influx of new posters made me wonder if the push to view jw.org is helping curious ones find this support site?.

please post whether you found jwn during an internet search or if someone told you about it.. i myself was directed here by a df'd family member once i shared my doubts with that person..

ruderedhead

Same as OTWO! Thank you Randy!

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thinking of leaving

by justme67 in

i am 46 and have been a jw for only 6 years.

i was doing ok until about a month ago.

we were having an international convention and i heard the brother that had to pick up 2 of the members of the governing body had to get a background check done on him and his wife.

ruderedhead

justme, if you keep researching, you will be appalled by what you will find! Make a life for yourself outside of this sect, it's a wonderful world out here!

If you want to play by their rules, go ahead and DA yourself. Otherwise, simply go on your happy way, and let them do what they will. You literally have nothing to lose if you don't have family in and have no close associaltes there. I had no family in, my only child that was baptised was shunned when he went to university and kind of drifted away on his own, and our family is happy and doing well!

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PEER PRESSURE!!! I gave in to Pioneering during August...I feel dirty...

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).

but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.

yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......

ruderedhead

You're doing what you have to do, and it sounds like you have a good plan. If this makes it easier for you to fly under the radar, than so be it.

Hope you have some fun as well!

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Surreal experience last night.

by objectivetruth in

recently a jw friend that my wife & i knew 3 years ago added me on facebook, after i accepted the request she invited me to a dinner that her and her husband are holding next month.. i imagined that she was unaware of our apostasy, so i declined the invitation on the basis of not wanting to ruin her dinner after the rest of her guests fled at our presence.. i'm never sure how old friends will react when i tell them that i'm no longer a jw.. usually their response is "..... permanent-silence......".

her response went something like this, " we are all out!

everyone that is coming is out we all look forward to seeing you guys so much" it turns out that there will be 6 people at the dinner all friends of ours from a congregation that we attended a few years back.. they have all left the organization recently.. pretty crazy experience..

ruderedhead

That is awesome! Have a great time re-connecting with your friends!

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Stagnant JW growth at international convention

by kneehighmiah in

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so at the international convention 235 were baptized.

the attendance was 34k.

that's resents less than 1% its about .6%.

ruderedhead

Shirley, I was a d2d convert, and the cog. I was in at the time had 3 more(women) who were also d2d converts. I knew of 1 other in another cong. But that was back in the mid 80's!

Do you think that was normal for the time, or were we just guillible housewives w children? I think today most people will research easily on the web before getting involved, and I know I personally today would show them the door after showing them how misguided their beleifs are!