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Borges
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I HAVE NEVER MET A JW WHO WAS NOT HAPPY...
by OneStepOut93 insays a woman on a y!a forum.
of course no witness would say they weren't happy .
by the waaaaaay.... .
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How to judge pedophilia on paradise ?
by Lurker001 inmy very first topic post, to present myself i only can say i'd been a lurker here for a while.. .
since english is not my mother tongue please just disregard my grammatical faults as well unfluency in the composition of my text.. i felt motivated to post because i'm interesting to now your opinion to the subject below explained .
because myself i could not find a perfect solution without raising collateral questions.. .
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Borges
Hi Lurker,
a warm welcome from Germany!
I like your reasoning. In the Paradise the JW imagine, there is only one sort of crime left: Thought crime. And there is only one who can detect it: God. And only one who will judge: God. And only one who will execute the sentence: God.
The perfect world would be a perfect dictatorship.
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Newbie - I need advice!
by awakening inwell here it is, my first post!
it feels like a huge step like the point of no return.
i am a born in, still in wanting to get out ms. i have refused eldership, used to pioneer and have sooo many stories.
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Borges
Welcome!
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Imagine if the GB called you in for questioning
by nolongerconfused inwhat would you tell or ask these group of men if they called you in for a meeting?.
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Borges
If they would call me in, I wouldn't go. I don't want to talk to a bunch of dumbheads.
To the leading guys of my childhood and youth (Knorr, Franz, Henschel, Jaraz) I would like to talk. But they already fled to heaven...
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New Girl
by excitesinceredetermination inhello to everyone :) i wanted to introduce myself as a newbie.
i was raised in and i am currently on active status due to most of my family being very much in, but i am so ready to be done and have felt that way for quite some time.
internally i know this is not the right religion without a doubt.
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Borges
Welcome!
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Were you popular in your congregation or district?
by Emery innot to start some form of popularity contests here but i was wondering how popular some people were?
how far did your network go in this organization?
this question also pertains to those who are actively fading..
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Borges
I was liked by many people and I've enjoyed it. Now I'm hated by the same people. I try to enjoy this too.
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To circumcise or not to circumcise?
by srd inhere's a good one for you, looking at gen 17 and paul's subversive interpretive practices.
http://contradictionsinthebible.com/is-the-covenant-of-circumcision-an-eternal-covenant-or-not/.
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Borges
We've had a heated debate going on in Germany about circumcision last year. A regional court held that circumcision of boys is battery.
That caused an outcry from the jewish and also the muslim communities. Even the christian denominations closed the ranks with them.
It was interessesting to read all the pro and conts. To me it's obvious, that there is NO advantage, but al lot of risk regarding circumcision (if your stomac stands it, look at wikipedia about it).
As far as I remember was circumcision in the USA promoted by a guy named Kellog (The Cornflake Man). He said, that circumcision will keep the boys from masturbate.
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Believe in God? A Christian?
by OccupyJehovahsWitnesses inhappy almost friday everybody!
so i'm curious, how long has everyone been out?.
do you believe in god?
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Borges
I'm out since 2008. Atheist.
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yet another newbie..
by ragnarok75 ini've been lurking here for some time and now that i've registered here's a little bit about myself... i'm in northern europe (so english is not my own language,but i have indeed studied it for more than 18 months) and i was born into this hateful cult in the "momentuous" year of -75.good that my parents stayed alive till then!.
as far back as i can remember i had doubts both about the doctrines and the whole existence of god.however,i instinctively knew that these doubts are not to be mentioned.so i learned to be a fake at an early age.though having read many other stories here i realise how easy i got it.i now understand that we lived in a rather liberal area and also my family was quite liberal eventhough my dad was an elder since mid -80 and mom was really "strong in the truth".i never brought up the religion at school or with friends and was never bullied or anything.it helped that i was good at sports,especially football (soccer for americans) and football is also the source of my biggest hurt in childhood.i know it may sound very trivial,but the fact that i wasn't allowed to join a football team felt just so unjust and painfull and it lasted all through my childhood.whenever we had a new gym teacher,the first thing he asked me was which team do i play for.i was too embarrased to tell the truth and i just gave the impression that i only wanted to play for fun and not join any team.oh,how badly i wanted to!.
somehow i managed to silence all those doubts and got babtised as a young man.very soon after the babtism i knew that it didn't have the hoped for effect of making me more spiritual and meetings and field service still felt an absolute bore.now began the long years of just "going through the motions".all my family (parents,many brothers and sisters,uncles and aunts,nieces and nephews) and most of my friends were in.i never reached out and attended only one or two meetings a week and penned my hours.i kind of liked my congregation (also,the seats at our kh were really comfy,so i often slept through the meetings) and made some very good friends.friends that - as you all can guess- didn't turn out to be so good in the end,but with whom i nonetheless had some good times and felt a strong connection to.. for a long time nothing happened that would've disrupted my rather non-eventfull life as a lacklustre jdub with at least another foot in the "world".i'd done many things that would've gotten me d'fed,but i never had any intentions of going to the elders about it and i had no pangs of conscience about it either.it was just a matter of convenience..i liked my witness friends,wanted to hold on to them and not to lose my family.. however..there was this girl... a (worldly,of course) girl that i had absolutely fell for and had a brief romance with many years ago.now she was back in my life.i must omit the proceeding turns of events for the sake of anonymity,but the end result is that i'm a proud father of a lovely baby girl.well,not so much baby anymore as she starts school soon.i love her so much and it gives me great satisfaction that she is growing free from any influence of vicious cults or of any gods for that matter.we live now in different countries but i see her often and there's always skype.. her birth also acted as a catalyst for the change in relationship between me and the society.i decided that i wanted to share the joy of her birth and existence with my family,eventhough i also knew that that would mean i'd have to go the elders too.if i didn't,they would,and that would result in automatic disfellowshippping.. a jc was duly formed and i had decided that i'm not going to go there and tell them that i regret her,as having her is the best thing that's ever happeded to me.
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Borges
Welcome!
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New Member / MS still in...
by Comatose infeels real strange typing this.
i was what you all call born in.
i was happy growing up.
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Borges
A warm welcome from Germany Comatose!