A very well educated brother once held up the Weekly World News and said "it's all true". He said it in relation to how we call our literature "Truth". I now understand how he had to think that way in order to survive in this religion.
wisdomfrombelow
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Anyone have a record of lies told by the WT.
by jam inexample, in print (may 22, 1969 wt, you will never die).. bold face lies, to show that this organization have been lying.
out of their rear since day one.
be denied.
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Elders Call Off Meetings A Lot More Easily Than They Did Before For Inclement Weather
by minimus inthe meetings were cancelled in this area with only 2 inches of snow for the "storm''.
lol.
a month ago the co had the meeting cancelled because it was a bit tracherous, which i thought was a good call..... years`ago, if we cancelled a meeting it took until one hour before the presiding overseer would finally decide to cancel.. today's jws are wimps..
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wisdomfrombelow
I personally like it when they call off meetings. The more notice that is given the better it is for all involved.
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OH POOR RUTHERFORD! Not!
by clarity injust wanted this for my records and for the newbies who don't know .
that rutherford & co never "fulfilled the prophetic" - 3 yrs in prison!.
http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=441:did-j-f-rutherford-lie-about-being-exonerated&catid=27:rutherford&itemid=342.
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wisdomfrombelow
Does anyone know the name of the officer that was released and not sent to jail? Is the list of the 7 others readily available?
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What group within the Witnesses has the highest drop out rate?
by Ultimate Axiom inif you could categorise jehovahs witnesses into their various groups, i.e.
publisher, auxiliary pioneer, regular pioneer, special pioneer, missionary, co, do, bethel worker, born-ins, etc etc, (and you can subdivide into as many groups as you wish) what group do you think has the highest drop out rate?
i remember an ex ny bethellite saying that bethel cured him of the watchtower, and after reading the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/160509/1/warren-schroeder-from-bethel-on-freddy-kline-and-the-apostate-books my guess is that it would be ny bethellites, but i am interested to know if there is a consensus on this, or on any other group, or no group at all..
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wisdomfrombelow
I guess it depends on what you've invested and how painful the exit will be. Once people get promince and are in special full-time service, they really are financially bound. They lose the prestige and have to fend for themselves in the real-world where they are ill-equipped and might not have any non-witness friends or family. CO and DO might be the least likely to leave because they often don't have any real roots as they are constantly moved around.
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What if you simply IGNORED being disfellowshipped and continued as before?
by Terry ini know this is an odd idea.
maybe it is even silly.. but, i do daydream..... .
what if you were informed that you are disfellowshipped and you flashed a huge smile and said, "nah.".
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wisdomfrombelow
Terry,
Your specific case is much different then the scenario that you mentioned initially. They no longer state publicly the reason why someone is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses so the rank and file are left to wonder. On another note, "innocence" is relative. Not related to your case but people can be kicked for smoking when under duress, for having a child through artificial insemination, for making personal decisions about medical treatment and for not blabing about a sin someone else did that they were aware of. Since no one knows the reason WHY, people don't have enough information to decide anything for themselves about how they feel about the case. When you hit them "in the pocket book" it has a lasting affect on those who did the injury.
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Has Anyone Ever Been DF'd, Moved and Then Just Started Over Again ???
by RubaDub ini know that people jump through all sorts of hoops to get reinstated, typically for family reasons.. if you happened to move to a different area, wouldn't it just be easier to accept some literature, study, get love-bombed, etc.
you could then switch congregations and fade and not have the df status anymore.. am i smoking something ?
i can't believe this has not been done before ?.
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wisdomfrombelow
Why would someone want to do that? I have heard of people just attending meeting and resuming the JW lifestyle after moving and just not informing their new congregation about their old congregation. I know of people that have moved BEFORE getting DF'd and attended meetings not worrying about what happened before. I believe if you are not a member of the congregation then they can't disfellowship you. They wouldn't be able to fill out the form properly if they don't know your baptism date (perhaps i am wrong about that)
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What if you simply IGNORED being disfellowshipped and continued as before?
by Terry ini know this is an odd idea.
maybe it is even silly.. but, i do daydream..... .
what if you were informed that you are disfellowshipped and you flashed a huge smile and said, "nah.".
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wisdomfrombelow
People are often confused when you attend meetings while disfellowshipped and smile and sing and talk. They are puzzled when your behavior doesn't match what they expect but I don't think it will change how they treat you--at least in public at the Kingdom Hall. Bring some people with you (non-jw) and that causes more confusion for them because it is awkward to talk to them without talking to you.
Even if you are kind and offer a ride to a witness who needs it or shovel their driveway when there is snow, there can be repercussions for the recipient. That creates fear for them and confusion.
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200 Billion WT Corporation gives all Members Vote, then Distributes all Money to Members
by villagegirl inthe plan: the wt corp turns 200 billion dollar $ assets, property, stock, investment, into cash, then sends a check to every member, men women and baptized children.
these people are 7 million in number and now each get a check for $30,000 x 7 million = $200 billion.
the governing body quietly leaves town.
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wisdomfrombelow
I thought the actual voting members of the Watchtower Society of Pennsylvania was not more than 500. Then they would get the money and the rest would get nothing. I don't think publishers will ever get anything back.
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Have you ever shunned someone and then later regretted it?
by 00DAD inlately, i've been reading a number of thread lately that deal with this topic.
one particularly poignant experience came from simon.
in simon's story he shares: .
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wisdomfrombelow
I have shunned people I never knew and regretted it. When I was a youngster there was a Holocost survivor speaking at my school and I missed a chance to talk to him because I had heard he was disfellowshipped. I wasn't baptized and not even sure where I heard that he was disfellowshipped but I missed out on a chance to meet someone very interesting because I shunned pro-actively.
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Your Take On 30 Hour Pioneering
by jw07 inthe gb has magically reduced the hours sufficient for being an auxillary pioneer for march and april to 30.. this is my take:.
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wisdomfrombelow
I never really understand the difference between someone who gets pioneer hours and a pioneer. With the except of the status and required approval of the body of elders, it is just someone doing a certain amount of time in the field ministry. Since an elder or ministerial servent should, by station of their title, already be "exemplary", if they as a regular publisher reach the required hours for an auxiliary pioneer for a particular month shouldn't they be considered an auxiliary pioneer even if it is retroactive? If you think too much about it then you'll realize just what it is--a title which means very little and you can create your own titles to mean whatever you want and apply them to yourself and get as much or even more benefit.