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Despite their false predictions aren't the JWs right? Won't the world eventually end & Paradise come?
by deegee in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
aren't there christian denominations who do not make false end of the world predictions but who nevertheless believe that the world will eventually end and paradise (whether in heaven or on earth) will come?.

it seems the watchtower was just jumping the gun when they made false end of the world predictions but they are nevertheless the right: the world will eventually end and paradise will come..
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Question for those that have been Disfellowshiped for apostasy VS succesfully fading
by NikL in
1. jw
2. friends
there are quite a few here who have been disfellowshipped for apostasy.. then there are those that have successfully faded.. why the different outcome?

are the ones that got df more out spoken?

or does the discrepancy lie with the elders?.
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Annual Cult Exit day
by stockholm_Syndrome in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
does anyone here do a " annual cult exit day" at home --- we are thinking of a christmas tree with a birthday cake on top hanging with easter eggs --- listening to punk while smoking cigars ....thoughts?.
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Prophecy_ Initial Fullfilment -later Fullfilment -Matt.24:34
by smiddy in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
just a simple observation ,the wt used to say that their was an initial fullfilment of bible prophecy and a later fullfilment for our day and that they mirrowed each other.. do they still say much of the same thing ?.

the initial fullfilment of matt.24:34 took place in well under 50 years from when jesus gave this prophecy , a (one ) generation .. no overlapping of a generation occured then ,so none should occur in a later fullfilment of prophecy.. their is no room in scripture , in the first century of an overlapping generation of the initial fullfilment of jesus prophecy.. no such thing occured ..
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So I bought a Harold Camping book.
by schnell in
1. jw
2. friends
i found this at goodwill and i want to burn my eyes out a little.. .

camping predicted september 15, 1994 as the end of history in his 1992 book ingeniously titled "1994?

" he pulled the same thing for december of 2011 of course, and here we are.. .
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Preaching work already done - not for now
by stockholm_Syndrome in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
compare what happened during the apostolic period -col 1:23:provided, of course, that you continue in the faith, established on the foundation and steadfast, not being shifted away from the hope of that good news that you heard and that was preached in all creation under heaven.+ of this good news i, paul, became a minister.rom 16:26but has now been made manifest* and has been made known through the prophetic scriptures among all the nations according to the command of the everlasting god to promote obedience by faith;who was the preaching commission, or coming forward as a witness given to?

remembering context, audience and purpose….john 15:27;and you, in turn, are to bear witness,+ because you have been with me from the beginning.hmmm i personally wasn't with jesus from the beginning ---were you ?matt 11:1when jesus had finished giving instructions to his 12 disciples, he set out from there to teach and preach in their cities.i wasn't one of his original 12 disciples ---where you?matthew 28:16-20however, the 11 disciples went to galʹi·lee to the mountain where jesus had arranged for them to meet.

17 when they saw him, they did obeisance, but some doubted.18 jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “all authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.
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Revelation already fulfilled
by stockholm_Syndrome in
1. watchtower
2. bible
it appears to me revelation was 'fulfilled' 1st century and we are fooling ourselves to think it applies to present times .

let's start with the opening statement:.

a revelation by jesus christ, which god gave him,+ to show his slaves+ the things that must shortly take place.. hmm-- shortly take place ?
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The right to shun - wrong?
by Simon in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
many people are understandably upset and angry at the notion that jws have the right to shun people.

it seems such an obvious "no brainer" cruel and inhuman thing to do - it must be wrong ... surely?.

of course we look at things from the perspective of those hurt and harmed by shunning.
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To Transfuse or Not To Transfuse
by Chris Tann in
1. watchtower
2. bible
when my son became baptized as a witness at age nine, it worried me that he could now get a no blood card.

i wanted to make sure if blood transfusions were really as disgusting to "jehovah" as i was taught.

i already found out some things about my beliefs that were not true, so it wasn't hard for me to be questionable about this.. i first looked in the reasoning book under blood as to why we don't accept transfusions.
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Finished Mystery (1917)... The book that Jesus approved...
by Alfred in
1. watchtower
2. bible
so a few months ago, a friend sent me an actual copy of finished mystery which was published in 1917 (not a pdf download... the actual book).

i must say, this was the most disturbing book i have ever had the displeasure of reading.

but i only read it because this was the main publication that was being distributed worldwide when jesus supposedly chose the watchtower in 1918 and i basically wanted to see for myself what jesus saw in the wt that would compel him to choose this religious corporation over all other religious denominations.. anyway, if anyone is interested in knowing the actual contents of this book, here are some bullet points i put together from some of the notes i took as i read the book:.