Maybe there will be a mass exodus from JWs when thinking people read FEB 2017 watchtower telling them the governing body stuff up, shouldnt expect correct/ perfect information and basically make up guff as they see fit.....ya reckon?
stockholm_Syndrome
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Mass JW exodus
by stockholm_Syndrome inmaybe there will be a mass exodus from jws when thinking people read feb 2017 watchtower telling them the governing body stuff up, shouldnt expect correct/ perfect information and basically make up guff as they see fit.....ya reckon?.
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Despite their false predictions aren't the JWs right? Won't the world eventually end & Paradise come?
by deegee inaren't there christian denominations who do not make false end of the world predictions but who nevertheless believe that the world will eventually end and paradise (whether in heaven or on earth) will come?.
it seems the watchtower was just jumping the gun when they made false end of the world predictions but they are nevertheless the right: the world will eventually end and paradise will come..
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Circa 1000 BC Psalms 37 was written "Just a little while longer and the wicked shall be no more"----
Hmmmm 3000 years later they are still here.................PROPHECY FAIL
A rational person could not say to anyone 'its only a little while -3000 years
But theres more!
Babylon- Isaiah 13 written circa 700BC -Babylon is soon to be destroyed - nomads will never live there.....But Babylon kept going -- was the governmental seat of Alexander the great circa 380BC and the Jewish Talmud was written there 300 AD---1000 years later.
American troops had a base there living right in the midst of Babylon ---google it---Camp Alpha
PROPHECY FAIL
I could give many more if interested
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Question for those that have been Disfellowshiped for apostasy VS succesfully fading
by NikL inthere are quite a few here who have been disfellowshipped for apostasy.. then there are those that have successfully faded.. why the different outcome?
are the ones that got df more out spoken?
or does the discrepancy lie with the elders?.
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I"Do you believe the GB/FDS are Jah's representatives on earth?"
well--yes i do !
but as jah is just a myth--then--quite rightfully---the GB are representatives of a myth.
That is EXCELLENT Stan Livedeath!
I have faded and always thought that would be a very hard question to look sincere in -- and now I can ..Cheers
Parents and Siblings still talk with me -just we all avoid any spiritual discussion cause they all know where I stand and they dont want us d'fed either
My kids do normal stuff - and if questioned just say "Mum and Dad let us make up our own minds" - not an ideal JW situation but you cant be d'fed for it. We sometimes look at 'facebook god' as a family for a laugh..
When I see dubs socially - if congo stuff ever come up we say we have personal stuff happening --and they dont push it...
All cool.....just wish my extended family would see it as an unfounded puritan life (for them)is @#$@
It is incredibly tempting to engage Elders in discussion - but the loss would outway any satisfaction...
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Preaching work already done - not for now
by stockholm_Syndrome incompare what happened during the apostolic period -col 1:23:provided, of course, that you continue in the faith, established on the foundation and steadfast, not being shifted away from the hope of that good news that you heard and that was preached in all creation under heaven.+ of this good news i, paul, became a minister.rom 16:26but has now been made manifest* and has been made known through the prophetic scriptures among all the nations according to the command of the everlasting god to promote obedience by faith;who was the preaching commission, or coming forward as a witness given to?
remembering context, audience and purpose….john 15:27;and you, in turn, are to bear witness,+ because you have been with me from the beginning.hmmm i personally wasn't with jesus from the beginning ---were you ?matt 11:1when jesus had finished giving instructions to his 12 disciples, he set out from there to teach and preach in their cities.i wasn't one of his original 12 disciples ---where you?matthew 28:16-20however, the 11 disciples went to galʹi·lee to the mountain where jesus had arranged for them to meet.
17 when they saw him, they did obeisance, but some doubted.18 jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “all authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.
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ahhhhhhhh o.k. --- setlle stockholm settle ---but to be honest I couldnt find apostate apologist info anywhere when I started to look ---- and my nerd brain needed to be untaught --- so I think others may too
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So I bought a Harold Camping book.
by schnell ini found this at goodwill and i want to burn my eyes out a little.. .
camping predicted september 15, 1994 as the end of history in his 1992 book ingeniously titled "1994?
" he pulled the same thing for december of 2011 of course, and here we are.. .
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I hear you dude --- very daggy-- but I've got Josephus(like alot have), Eusebius, Polycarp, Barnabas, Iraenius and books from various Roman historians --bought them about a year ago -- when trying to make sense of it all---- Then I discovered ---- I CANT MAKE SENSE OF IT ALL CAUSE ITS MUMBO BABY ---
Now I find jw.org like a comedy channel !
Im a fader --- but frustrated that I cant tell my cousins and mates bout it-----arghhhh
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Annual Cult Exit day
by stockholm_Syndrome indoes anyone here do a " annual cult exit day" at home --- we are thinking of a christmas tree with a birthday cake on top hanging with easter eggs --- listening to punk while smoking cigars ....thoughts?.
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Do it Phizzy Do it - Do it Phizzy Do it
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Annual Cult Exit day
by stockholm_Syndrome indoes anyone here do a " annual cult exit day" at home --- we are thinking of a christmas tree with a birthday cake on top hanging with easter eggs --- listening to punk while smoking cigars ....thoughts?.
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me too---didnt intend to leave - just read the bible freestyle and couldnt believe how evil it all was and how the governing body are no portal ---- if you cant sleep at some point I have blogged my exit process
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Annual Cult Exit day
by stockholm_Syndrome indoes anyone here do a " annual cult exit day" at home --- we are thinking of a christmas tree with a birthday cake on top hanging with easter eggs --- listening to punk while smoking cigars ....thoughts?.
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indeed ---not long out myself and I have to pinch myself ! specially when I'm mountain biking on a saturday morning instead of knocking on empty doors! Sought of want to do things for the kids to make up for lost time but...
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Preaching work already done - not for now
by stockholm_Syndrome incompare what happened during the apostolic period -col 1:23:provided, of course, that you continue in the faith, established on the foundation and steadfast, not being shifted away from the hope of that good news that you heard and that was preached in all creation under heaven.+ of this good news i, paul, became a minister.rom 16:26but has now been made manifest* and has been made known through the prophetic scriptures among all the nations according to the command of the everlasting god to promote obedience by faith;who was the preaching commission, or coming forward as a witness given to?
remembering context, audience and purpose….john 15:27;and you, in turn, are to bear witness,+ because you have been with me from the beginning.hmmm i personally wasn't with jesus from the beginning ---were you ?matt 11:1when jesus had finished giving instructions to his 12 disciples, he set out from there to teach and preach in their cities.i wasn't one of his original 12 disciples ---where you?matthew 28:16-20however, the 11 disciples went to galʹi·lee to the mountain where jesus had arranged for them to meet.
17 when they saw him, they did obeisance, but some doubted.18 jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “all authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.
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stockholm_Syndrome
So what jookbeard is saying is that the whole JW experience is irrelevant...no one cares ... and he does not know why he is on an exJW forum --- thought I would clear it up for everyone :o)
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Prophecy_ Initial Fullfilment -later Fullfilment -Matt.24:34
by smiddy injust a simple observation ,the wt used to say that their was an initial fullfilment of bible prophecy and a later fullfilment for our day and that they mirrowed each other.. do they still say much of the same thing ?.
the initial fullfilment of matt.24:34 took place in well under 50 years from when jesus gave this prophecy , a (one ) generation .. no overlapping of a generation occured then ,so none should occur in a later fullfilment of prophecy.. their is no room in scripture , in the first century of an overlapping generation of the initial fullfilment of jesus prophecy.. no such thing occured ..
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stockholm_Syndrome
I agree!! The already fulfilled thing was what I first found on properly reading the [slaughter] book till I worked out it was all mumbo jumbo. Least the original generation was under 50 years --the new one just keeps giving and giving