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  Powell admits Iraq evidence mistake

  by Simon in

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  the truth always comes out eventually.

  i hate to say "i told you so" but all those who were extremely critical of those who questioned the 'evidence' do, i think, need to re-evaluate the faith they put in the powers that be and perhaps owe some people an apology.

  remember?

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  ceiling fan LOL!

  tisk tisk tisk
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  Harmful or Dangerous?

  by Sunspot in

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  in view of the recent ban in russia, and the statement that the government feels that the wts is considered harmful and dangerous, my thoughts are these;

  i think that anyone or anything that purposely tampers with the very fabric of people's families, is dangerous, but that's just the way i see it.

  maybe this sounds extreme, but then the watchtower society is extreme, and too, i speak from personal experience.. .

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  gopher

  It's frustrating, but it's part of the price we pay for living in a free society.

  Absolutely! At some point we have to take responsibility for what we chose to do with our lives like it or not. Just speaking from experience, as someone raised in the religion and witnessed many things that caused me to think twice about continuing any longer.

  It is very true that there is a brainwashing effect that takes place over time and leaving is not an easy thing to do ESPECIALLY when one has family and close friends who are still associated with or members of the WTS. BUT nevertheless, we have to make the best decisions we can for ourselves.

  I personally am very thankful to be able to make my own choice. Far to many people in this world don?t have that luxury and I think those of us that do have a tendency to take that for granted.

  "Be careful what you wish for it make come back to bite you in the ass one day"
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  Freedom of religon

  by plmkrzy in

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  check this out.

  i stumbled across this while looking through old news papers.

  a baptist church seized by u.s. government

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  I was thinking the same thing Ozzie, don't know what deal is with that, but the article was inteesting anyway.

  lol@the pope

  On another note about religious freedom. I read this in todays stories and thought about the jws ...women, to partake or not to partake?

  had to laugh.

  Women Barred From Holy Thursday Ritual Wed Apr 7,12:45 AM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo! ATLANTA - Women will not be allowed to participate in Holy Thursday foot-washing rituals at Roman Catholic churches in Atlanta. In a letter to the archdiocese's priests, Archbishop John Donoghue said only 12 men at each parish should be selected for the ritual, which represents Jesus washing the feet of his disciples at the Last Supper. Donoghue, his staff and the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops refused to comment on the issue Tuesday. However, the Conference of Catholic Bishops' Web site states: "It has become customary in many places to invite both men and women to be participants in this rite of recognition of the service that should be given by all the faithful to the church and to the world." Catholic churches in Atlanta, where Donoghue has been in charge since 1993, have included women in the foot-washing rite for years. Several women said they plan a protest Thursday at the Cathedral of Christ the King in Atlanta, where the archbishop will preside over Holy Thursday Mass. "We'll stand in solidarity, and we'll sing and we'll pray," said Lalor Cadley, who organizes Catholic retreats and workshops. Donoghue sparked a similar protest 15 years ago when he banned women from foot washing in Charlotte, N.C. Several priests in Atlanta did not immediately return telephone messages left at their offices by The Associated Press. Priests are bound by a vow of obedience to follow their archbishop's orders and generally are prohibited from openly criticizing those orders. "A shepherd who cares only for the rams won't have a flock for very long," said Kathleen Pruitt of Bremen, Ga., who attends several Catholic churches.
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  Freedom of religon

  by plmkrzy in

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  check this out.

  i stumbled across this while looking through old news papers.

  a baptist church seized by u.s. government

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  Check this out. I stumbled across this while looking through old news papers.

  A BAPTIST CHURCH SEIZED BY U.S. GOVERNMENT

  On February 15, 2001 U.S. Marshals occupied and seized the building of the Indianapolis Baptist Temple in Indianapolis, Indiana. The worshippers were forcibly removed from the building. Those unwilling to leave while praying were overpowered and carried out on stretchers. The church was taken over by the Internal Revenue Service - the U.S. taxation department - allegedly for unpaid taxes amounting to $5.7 million.
  Really?
  A respected American Internet magazine, http://www.worldnetdaily.com
  published this explanation for our benefit on its Web site:
  "The Indianapolis Baptist Temple was illegally seized by the federal
  government not because, as many news reports suggested, it hadn't paid
  taxes. Churches aren't required to pay taxes in America. The church was seized because it refused to deduct withholding and payroll taxes from employees' paychecks. The church's reason was very sound: It did not want to submit to regulations by the federal government.
  In other words, the federal government didn't lose a penny of revenue
  because of the actions of the church. There isn't even any allegation by the government that it did. Employees of the church paid taxes individually - just as millions of other employees and independent contractors do every year."
  According to the information available from other sources, notably from http://www.freerepublic.com and http://www.sierratimes.com some time ago, the tax money sent by individual taxpayers was returned to them with a request than an identical amount be sent again - by the Church.
  The Indianapolis Baptist Temple was reluctant to cooperate with the Internal Revenue Service. Documents made available to us suggest they had a reason to do so.
  Documentation from FreeRepublic informs us that, in order to obtain their tax-exempt status as religious bodies, churches in the United States must:
  1. Be incorporated
  2. Have a recognised creed and "IRS approved form of worship" 3. Have "IRS approved code of doctrine" 4. Be neutral on political issues
  5. Pastor must answer to IRS as to "daily activities of the church"
  6. Pastor must supply a list of all donors - make the books available
  7. Church must advocate and support racial integration
  8. Church may not engage in activities opposing pornography
  9. Church may not support legislation saying "children belong to parents" rather than "the state" 10. Church may not form a Political Action Committee nor support legislation "opposing lotteries and gambling"
  11. Church may not publicly declare "we are to obey God rather than the government"
  FreeRepublic says there are 19 more requirements in the IRS publication 1826(9-94) Cat.No.21096G.
  No more comments.
  
  Henry L. Marconi
  Pravda.Ru
  Sydney, Australia
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  Powell admits Iraq evidence mistake

  by Simon in

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  the truth always comes out eventually.

  i hate to say "i told you so" but all those who were extremely critical of those who questioned the 'evidence' do, i think, need to re-evaluate the faith they put in the powers that be and perhaps owe some people an apology.

  remember?

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  This mornings headlines

  US toll mounts as Bush vows to crush "thugs" AFP - 3 minutes ago US marines lost at least 12 dead in their worst single toll in Iraq this year as occupation forces battled Shiite and Sunni opponents and US President George W. Bush vowed to crush those he called "thugs and killers".

  U.S. Firm on Iraq Handoff Los Angeles Times - 19 minutes ago WASHINGTON ? One of the few things untouched by the new violence spreading across Iraq is the ringing U.S. insistence that no amount of instability will derail American plans to hand sovereignty back to Iraqis on June 30.

  12 Marines Are Killed as Violence Spreads in Iraq Los Angeles Times - 19 minutes ago NAJAF, Iraq ? Anti-American violence intensified across Iraq on Tuesday, spreading to previously quiet areas of the country and leaving a dozen Marines dead in one clash.

  MilitaryMilitary mulls boosting Iraq force Chicago Tribune - Tue Apr 6, 9:40 AM ET The U.S. military is examining ways to expand the size of its occupation force in Iraq in case reinforcements are needed because of rising violence there. A Look at U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq AP

  U.N. and Inspections U.N. Envoy in Iraq Keeps to Busy Schedule AP - Tue Apr 6, 7:08 PM ET Despite an escalation in fighting in Iraq, U.N. envoy Lakhdar Brahimi met politicians, women's groups and rights activists in Baghdad Tuesday in his quest to help the country pick an interim government that will take power on June 30.

  Media IssuesMedia careful about what images to show USATODAY.com - Thu Apr 1, 7:27 AM ET "This is a tough one," ABC Nightline chief Leroy Sievers wrote Wednesday in his daily e-mail to viewers.

  OpinionU.N. record in Iraq is strong
  Mon Apr 5, 6:38 AM ET, USATODAY.com
  There has been much discussion lately about the "scandal" of the U.N.-run oil-for-food program. The Iraqi Governing Council charges that hundreds of Iraqi officials, foreign companies and Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein skimmed 10% or so from the humanitarian contracts.

  Keep freedom of press in Iraq USATODAY.com - Thu Apr 1, 7:17 AM ET

  Corruption charges threaten valuable U.N. role in Iraq USATODAY.com - Mon Apr 5, 6:38 AM ET

  Pin the Tail On the Donkey
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  Powell admits Iraq evidence mistake

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  the truth always comes out eventually.

  i hate to say "i told you so" but all those who were extremely critical of those who questioned the 'evidence' do, i think, need to re-evaluate the faith they put in the powers that be and perhaps owe some people an apology.

  remember?

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  has the US ever successfully occupied anywhere BTW?).

  yes

  America
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  Powell admits Iraq evidence mistake

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  the truth always comes out eventually.

  i hate to say "i told you so" but all those who were extremely critical of those who questioned the 'evidence' do, i think, need to re-evaluate the faith they put in the powers that be and perhaps owe some people an apology.

  remember?

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  America

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  has one god-damn aweful f****g mess to

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  clean

  up and they had better stay and put it right.

  I agree!

  But Iraq was not exactly a vacation resort to begin with like you seem to think.
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  HOW ABOUT MENTIONING JESUS AT THE MEMORIAL!

  by Mary in

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  well i went last night...........did anyone else notice how the talk focused almost exclusively on the 144,000???

  jesus was barely mentioned.

  the first couple of minutes talked about when the israelites left egypt and the passover was instituted.

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  Absolutely NO reading of the actual Last Supper, Judas' betrayal, Jesus praying in the Garden of Gethsamine, His arrest, trial and executiion----NOTHING!!! I specifically remember years ago that ALL of these things were the topic at the Memorial, as that is supposed to be what the event is about. While the 144,000 has always been mentioned, it NEVER used to be the frigging main theme! I was particularly disgusted last night. Jesus died for us, it's the one time of the year at the Hall where the focus should be exclusively on HIM, and he's barely mentioned!!

  Did anyone else who went notice this?

  After reading a few threads here and there on this topic I am glad I didn't attend.

  The memorial I attended that I remember being engaging, due to a abnormally good speaker, was I think 1996. It might have been ?97 but I think it was ?96.

  Otherwise I can't remember any speaker during all the others in the last couple of decades doing the memorial any justice.
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  A Memorial "Correction"...

  by AGuest in

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  may you all have peace!.

  it was spirit that was put into that "soul"... and the spirit... that "sins"... must be destroyed.

  but his spirit did not die nor was it destroyed.

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  During the "talk", the "brother" read from the outline a statement that said, in effect, that for some time the Christ was "out of existence," that in dying, God TOOK him out of existence... and let him BE out of existence... for a time.

  I missed the memorial at the KH this year and last year as well.

  Last year I felt guilty

  This year I don't

  plum
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  So let it be written...So let it be done

  by plmkrzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  tonight, or last night since its early morning now, i stayed home and watched the annual release of "the ten commandments" .

  i was just wondering, since there was never any real mention of the use of scribes during moses day and they were basically put to use after moses posted all those laws, who was writing all this stuff down every time the pharaoh said "so let it be written, so let it be done.

  i don't recall seeing one scribe in that movie!

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  God dictated the whole thing.

  Thats right. Isn't this secretaries week? I wonder what Moses Got for God? Oh wait, Moses was tossed out and lost his privileges.

  In at least one scene there is a scribe. He's behind Brenner to his right. The guy is kneeling and has a reed and papyrus.

  I thought he was tieing his shoe.