Posts by plmkrzy

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Hi

by UNCLEAR in

this obviously is my first post, i actually feel like i may be sick but i felt compelled to post.

only if to just say hello.. my life has been anything but boring, pioneered for years, brought several family members into "the truth", and find myself unable to have studies anylonger because i feel unsure about the stand i have taken all these years.. i was previously married, my husband left the organization for various reason, we divorced and i recently remarried another brother, he is a wonderful man and husband, i care for him deeply we and had been friends for 15 years.

i also have a son from my first marriage who is 4, he is the love of my life, recently my son had an opertion that could require a blook transfusion and to be honest i could never deny him that.

plmkrzy

Welcome unclear. warning This place can be addicting. You WILL learn a lot if you stick around.

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This may be my last postso goodbye and thanks

by seven006 in

jw
friends

i never thought i would do one of those infamous goodbye i cant take this board anymore posts where the person shows up again a week later and looks like an idiot.

when i had enough of this board and needed a little break i would just quietly leave for a few months and hopefully nobody noticed.

that is not the case this time.

plmkrzy

OMG Dave. I very rarely ever post or read the form anymore and missed this one.

I’m so sorry you’re dealing with such difficult times. I have always enjoyed your posts in the past. They never failed to make me smile and laugh even when I was feeling at then end of my own rope.

I can remember one particular thread where you posted about Jesus and his disciples smoking pot. My youngest son, in high school at the time, printed it out and took it to school to share with his friends. They had the best laugh from that.

You are missed.

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To whom is the Ransom paid?

by Fe2O3Girl in

i think that even jw-lites have a grasp of the basic teaching that all humans have inherited sin from adam and eve, and hence all humans die.

jesus was a perfect human, and through his death......(from the wt website):.

"his sacrificed perfect human life became the ransom price, able to redeem mankind from sin and death.

plmkrzy

God created man in his image...uh, well kinda.

Man turned out less then expected...a big dissapointment.

God decided these are no good, got to get rid of man. Back to the drawing board.

Jesus said NO WAIT DAD! Can I have 'em?

God said, well ok son but, its gonna cost ya. How bad do you want em?

In a nut shell, Jesus bought us from his father then mapped out a plan to bring some of us back to perfection over the next several thousand years and live happily ever after.

Maybe God sold us to his son then went on to try it again elsewhere, there's another planet somewhere with actual perfect humans living in a paradise. Watching us f%%kups.

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DEAMONS anyone?

by plmkrzy in

being raised a jw, imho, is basically being raised with more demon influence then anything else.

i do not mean this in the sense that it might be taken.

what it did for me, the up bringing that is, is put the idea in my head that everywhere i went i had to be very careful of satans influence.

plmkrzy

Both my parents became JWs and are both very set in thier ways about demons. I was born in it and began questioning the reasoning of the WTS and that subject by the time I was a teen. The same goes for my brother.

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Baptism in the bible

by unique1 in

my mother daily text from sunday which she sends to me.. in jehovah my soul will make its boast; the meek ones will hear and will rejoice.

ps.

34:2. one way to strengthen our sense of christian identity is to examine and imitate the faith of loyal worshipers.

plmkrzy

Even so, the baptism (immersion by water) which you are speaking of is not found in the Mosaic law.

I have discussed this with my mother in the past, wanting her personal thoughts on the subject since she has partaken since before I was born, and got the same answer. The "real" baptisim is not with water but with holy spirit. One does not need to be baptized in water. That practice is only for sightseeres.

I've heard stories of people needing to be baptized twice! LOL! The first time didn't take due to an elbow sticking out of the water. hahaha.

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Would You Ever Think About Taking Your Life???

by minimus in

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friends

have you ever been in such despair that the thought crossed your mind?

did being a jehovah's witness have anything to do with your mindset?

plmkrzy

I have been that depressed before but I can't say I never went through with it because of my up bringing as a JW. Not sure really. I think the only real reason for not going through with it was my children. If I didn't have them I might have gone off the deep end enough to go through with it. But I'll never really know for sure.

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DEAMONS anyone?

by plmkrzy in

being raised a jw, imho, is basically being raised with more demon influence then anything else.

i do not mean this in the sense that it might be taken.

what it did for me, the up bringing that is, is put the idea in my head that everywhere i went i had to be very careful of satans influence.

plmkrzy

(It sounds stupid even if you take into account that Satan does stuff that sounds stupid just so that you wont believe in him)

lol! Very true, there has always been ridiculous contradiction about the powers of Satan.

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DEAMONS anyone?

by plmkrzy in

being raised a jw, imho, is basically being raised with more demon influence then anything else.

i do not mean this in the sense that it might be taken.

what it did for me, the up bringing that is, is put the idea in my head that everywhere i went i had to be very careful of satans influence.

plmkrzy

Hellrider

I think there`s a difference here, ;between people who were raised in "the truth"

I think you're correct about that. It does make a difference. My father ( an elder) having been in the religion for almost 50 years was and is just as bad as my mother when it comes to the daemon thing. I don't think gender makes a difference but the length of time associated with the religion does. As I recall most of this stuff was and still is taught via the "society"

I can’t think of another religion that is so preoccupied with Satan other then perhaps the Catholic religion and I think JWs have surpassed them.

With regard to black cats etc., even those superstitions were of demonic influence. That way of thinking was only another form of Satan tricking us into believing in the supernatural.

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DEAMONS anyone?

by plmkrzy in

being raised a jw, imho, is basically being raised with more demon influence then anything else.

i do not mean this in the sense that it might be taken.

what it did for me, the up bringing that is, is put the idea in my head that everywhere i went i had to be very careful of satans influence.

plmkrzy

Being raised a JW, imho, is basically being raised with more demon influence then anything else. I do not mean this in the sense that it might be taken. What it did for me, the up bringing that is, is put the idea in my head that everywhere I went I had to be very careful of satans influence. Right down to and especially music for example.

Christmas was demonic

Easter was demonic

Most music was demonic

TV shows were demonic (Bewitched, smurfs etc.

There was no escaping demonic influence everywhere.

My question to those who are no longer affiliated with JWs is, do you still believe in demons?

What about ghosts? Has anyone converted to ghosts instead of demons?

Do these teachings still have an impact on your perspective? plum

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Baptism in the bible

by unique1 in

my mother daily text from sunday which she sends to me.. in jehovah my soul will make its boast; the meek ones will hear and will rejoice.

ps.

34:2. one way to strengthen our sense of christian identity is to examine and imitate the faith of loyal worshipers.

plmkrzy

Jesus couldn't get baptized until he was 30.

Jesus couldn't ?

Interesting thought.

Why did he wait until he was 30?

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