Posts by plmkrzy

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The New World Translation

by pratt1 in

jw
friends

do you still have your old bible?.

can you bring yourself to throw it out?.

it's the only book from my dub days i can't get rid of.. i guess i still have part of the "old personality" and i haven't fully put on the "new personality"

Why didn't Jesus Give Instructions for a Bible?

by gumby in

matt: 24:14 .."and this good new of the kingdom will be preached in all the earth as a witnesss to all the nations - and then the end will come".. jesus plan was that by the time he was to return, the earth would be schooled as to who and what he was.

suppose you were going to leave the planet for 2000 years and you wanted the entire earthly society of people who would be alive when you returned to know about you.

would you tell someone to write down all your words of truth since these words would produce salvation and eternal life to all who believed in you........or would you tell a handful of diciples or say even 500 buddies to spread your words to their children and down through the succeding generations?.

plmkrzy

Mostly, it just talked about not messin with your creator.

I don't think the creator likes seafood very much either.

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Why didn't Jesus Give Instructions for a Bible?

by gumby in

matt: 24:14 .."and this good new of the kingdom will be preached in all the earth as a witnesss to all the nations - and then the end will come".. jesus plan was that by the time he was to return, the earth would be schooled as to who and what he was.

suppose you were going to leave the planet for 2000 years and you wanted the entire earthly society of people who would be alive when you returned to know about you.

would you tell someone to write down all your words of truth since these words would produce salvation and eternal life to all who believed in you........or would you tell a handful of diciples or say even 500 buddies to spread your words to their children and down through the succeding generations?.

plmkrzy

LT

rb/atcha

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Why didn't Jesus Give Instructions for a Bible?

by gumby in

matt: 24:14 .."and this good new of the kingdom will be preached in all the earth as a witnesss to all the nations - and then the end will come".. jesus plan was that by the time he was to return, the earth would be schooled as to who and what he was.

suppose you were going to leave the planet for 2000 years and you wanted the entire earthly society of people who would be alive when you returned to know about you.

would you tell someone to write down all your words of truth since these words would produce salvation and eternal life to all who believed in you........or would you tell a handful of diciples or say even 500 buddies to spread your words to their children and down through the succeding generations?.

plmkrzy

Peacefulpete

The phrase was likely a marginal scribal note that accidentally got awkwardly incorporporated into the text.

I’ve considered that. What did he really say. Perhaps the word written was a bloop for “The Word” or who knows. We have to figure that out for ourselves.

gummers

if no bible was ever written, how many believers in Jesus would exist today?

Probably a couple. I think I understand where you're coming from though with this thread. Maybe he just knew we were gonna write stuff regardless and botch it up so he stayed out of it.

plm

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Why didn't Jesus Give Instructions for a Bible?

by gumby in

matt: 24:14 .."and this good new of the kingdom will be preached in all the earth as a witnesss to all the nations - and then the end will come".. jesus plan was that by the time he was to return, the earth would be schooled as to who and what he was.

suppose you were going to leave the planet for 2000 years and you wanted the entire earthly society of people who would be alive when you returned to know about you.

would you tell someone to write down all your words of truth since these words would produce salvation and eternal life to all who believed in you........or would you tell a handful of diciples or say even 500 buddies to spread your words to their children and down through the succeding generations?.

plmkrzy

Paul

1 Corinthians 2

1 When I came to you, brothers, I did not come with eloquence or superior wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God. [a] 2 For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 3 I came to you in weakness and fear, and with much trembling. 4 My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit's power, 5 so that your faith might not rest on men's wisdom, but on God's power.
Wisdom From the Spirit

6 We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 8 None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9 However, as it is written:
"No eye has seen,
no ear has heard,
no mind has conceived
what God has prepared for those who love him" [b] — 10 but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit.
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. [c] 14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:
16 "For who has known the mind of the Lord
that he may instruct him?" [d] But we have the mind of Christ.

1 Corinthians 4

Apostles of Christ

1 So then, men ought to regard us as servants of Christ and as those entrusted with the secret things of God. 2 Now it is required that those who have been given a trust must prove faithful. 3 I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court; indeed, I do not even judge myself. 4 My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. 5 Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.

6 Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written." Then you will not take pride in one man over against another. 7 For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not?

"Do not go beyond what is written." needs to be understood according to Paul. What did he mean by it?

Other then that, In a shorter nutshell, I believe all he was saying is we will be judged by what’s in our hearts as individuals not by what we know of the bible or any other book.

Herein lay a clue to Jesus the man and his Nazarean Party followers. What were those traditional messianics ;up too, carrying swords and counting zealots in their number?

Exactly Why Paul said what he said to the congregation, be careful when believing everything you hear/read/ and maybe even see, including him.

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Why didn't Jesus Give Instructions for a Bible?

by gumby in

matt: 24:14 .."and this good new of the kingdom will be preached in all the earth as a witnesss to all the nations - and then the end will come".. jesus plan was that by the time he was to return, the earth would be schooled as to who and what he was.

suppose you were going to leave the planet for 2000 years and you wanted the entire earthly society of people who would be alive when you returned to know about you.

would you tell someone to write down all your words of truth since these words would produce salvation and eternal life to all who believed in you........or would you tell a handful of diciples or say even 500 buddies to spread your words to their children and down through the succeding generations?.

plmkrzy

I believe that He did allow for some instructions that we may not be privy to.

Why wouldn't everyone be privy to it?

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Why tortured to death?

by Gill in

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if jesus only 'had to die' to redeem the whole human race, why then did he have to be tortured to death?.

was that really necessary, and what sick mind decreed that it was necessary?

plmkrzy

Why buy expensive china when you can run down to the 99cent store for dishes. You get what you pay for.

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Did Rutherford love his wife?

by VM44 in

did rutherford love his wife?.

if he did, why did he reside in brooklyn, while she lived in california?.

if he did, why during the times he did visited california he resided at beth sarim in san diego, when his wife, mary, resided in the los angeles area, where his son malcolm also lived?.

plmkrzy

yep he was raging alcoholic and a bootlegger

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Was Jesus such a great guy after all?

by Hellrider in

matthew .

15:21 after going out from there, jesus went to the region of tyre and sidon.

15:22 a canaanite woman from that area came and cried out, have mercy on me, lord, son of david!

plmkrzy

He probably thought she had nice legs.

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How do JW know they have the Truth?

by Noggin in

breif background: i am an ex mormon.

that church preaches that through powerful feelings sent by god, one can know the truth of the book of mormon.

highly reliable, right?

plmkrzy

When Rutherford decided to call the movement Jehovah’s Witnesses with the “idea” that it would somehow remain separate from all religions or somehow prevent it from being included as a religion proves he wasn’t thinking too clearly. Even the WTS gave up on that one.