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  How old is old?

  by joey jojo in

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  having a conversation with a pimi elder and i asked him how he deals with the fact that he never expected to get old.

  i get the feeling that some dubs still have the original generation explanation hard-wired, even though they claim to accept the new version.

  so my question is, how old do you have to be to be considered old?

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  I'm over 50 and still feel young 😃

  I feel younger at heart now I'm out than I did 10 years ago when I was in the religion .
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  Kingdom-Shop Hall

  by scruffmcbuff in

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  i was driving through the high street in highbrooms, royal tunbridge wells, uk yesterday.. in amongst the shop fronts was something ive never seen before.

  a large shop front with big glass windows,posters in the windows saying "start your free bible study today" (or something along those lines.

  where the shop name would be there was a large jw.org logo and a blue banner.

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  Borg off and scruffmcbuff : I have sent a PM

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  Confession Time - Music You're Embarrassed to Admit Listening To

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  admit it, we all have things that we reel off when people ask what our favourite music is, just the same as if people ask what our favourite movies are.

  we're meant to say "citizen kane" and "casablanca" and not "battleship" or "pacific rim" but we know what we're going to watch if they are ever on tv at the same time (and which ones we've never actually seen).. so how about some confession time?

  what do you listen to when no one else is in the house?.

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  @Blondie Rach2 is my favourite ever classical piece. I have lost count of the number of times I have listened to it, yet it still always makes me catch my breath. I heard it live in concert a couple of years ago and it was the most emotive, incredible experience. My husband treated me to a Rachmaninov Concerto No3 concert last year and that was also incredible.

  That said, I love a bit of ABBA and Erasure

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  Whatever is bound on EARTH is already Loosed in Heaven

  by Alex Williams in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when a person is guilty and worthy of punishment, the judgment ‘will already have been bound in heaven jesus said and if they are loosed or innocent it will already have been “loosed in heaven..in such judicial deliberations, jesus says, “where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.” .

  psalm 127:3.. children are a sacred trust, “an inheritance from jehovah.

  jws abhor child abuse and view it as a crime.its recognized that the authorities are responsible for addressing such crimes.jws do not shield any perpetrator of child abuse from the authorities as has been alleged.

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  Alex stated : "Any JWs judicial deliberations are theocratic and not privy to the pubic as sharing in the knowledge of decisions or sins committed by individuals."

  He claims that elders' joint decisions, especially with regard to judicial or congregation matters have already been decided in heaven.

  So what explanation can he give as to why a young man in my old congregation was appointed as a MS while he was carrying out prolonged and continuous abuse of a child (this became privy to the public when it came to light and he confessed)

  Also in the same congregation, a man who had been previously df'd for sexual misconduct was reinstated after the elder committee had supposedly sought guidance from God and the Holy spirit. It later became apparent that he also was still having extra marital affairs during the very time of his reinstatement.

  Either the elders have no backing or guidance from heaven, or God is complicit in these sins. Which is it, Alex?

  
  
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  Have Your Relationships Been Affected Because You Were A Jehovah’s Witness?

  by minimus in

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  i’m just curious if you think your past life either adversely or positively affected your relationships?.

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  I would say yes, definitely. I stayed in an unhealthy marriage far too long because of the JW mindset - trying to hide from my friends and family what was really going on underneath the surface.

  The strange thing is, the quirkiness in my nature that is an inevitable side effect of being in the cult was what initially attracted my new partner. The JW upbringing and subsequent release when I walked away has produced a unique combination of attributes and opinions within me which made him want to get to know me better.
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  Those that need to see a Therapist / and those that don`t is there a correlation of the two ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  there have been a number of threads / posts here over the years about ex jw`s needing to see therapists for what they are going through , and i can appreciate that.. obviously there are many ex jw`s on here that haven`t ever felt the need to see a therapist ,and i`m just wondering why not ?.

  why does one feel the need and another does not ?.

  is it to do with born ins as against those who were converts ?

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  I was in the religion from the age of two, so don't remember anything different. I also believed and trusted implicitly.

  Since my exit three years ago I have not felt the need for counselling but I have the benefit of a very understanding partner (found after leaving JW) and it's therapeutic to have his perspective. He has the perception to recognise that many of my views still carry the remnants of a life of indoctrination which are more ingrained than I had thought.

  That said, I personally know several ex JWs for whom counselling has been an important step in moving on.

  As has been said already, we all have a different emotional make up and the cult lifestyle has had more impact on some than others

  At least now we are free to choose whatever path we want without fear of censure.

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  Do You Ever Have Dreams You’re Still a JW?

  by jp1692 in

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  last night i dreamt i was at a circuit assembly; i even had a walk-on speaking part early in the morning program.

  i spent the rest of the day “working” the event in a security detail.

  the dream lasted until the entire day’s program was over.

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  I rarely have dreams related to the JWs now (my last meeting was almost 3 years ago) but I do still remember a nightmare I had as a child....

  I had survived Armageddon and was searching round the carnage to locate my family members. I couldn't find any - not my mother, father or sister. I can still recall the feelings of panic this created in me, and convincing myself that Jehovah would make me forget my former life if it made me unhappy.

  Bearing in mind I was not yet a teenager at the time and I am now in my 50s, it shows what emotional damage the organisation can inflict on children.

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  Just wanted to share my little bit of good news.

  by nicolaou in

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  2. family

  i haven't been posting here much lately, i think i only created one topic in 2018!

  but this is worth it.. i am a grandfather 😊.

  it happens all the time but damn, it feels good.

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  I'm so pleased for you. Grandchildren are such a joy - make the most of spoiling your little granddaughter at birthdays and Christmas

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  Holiday Plans

  by Kathy1978 in

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  2. experiences

  anyone doing anything interesting/fun for the holidays this year?

  we got some presents for our kids and a tree.

  other than that, just chillin.

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  I still live in the same territory of my old congregation so I don't feel free to put up a tree or decorate the house, but I helped to decorate a friend's tree last weekend - for the first time in my life and it felt great!

  This will also be the first time I will properly take part in the festivities and I'm as excited as a child 😄
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  Those awkward magazines

  by Addison0998 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m sure we all remember those really weird, awkward magazines we were expected to place in service.

  and it was before we are had the website or the thing on the back to fall back on.

  imagine being a 12 year old girl, and having to place magazines on god’s view of pornography, sex, homosexuality.

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  I would hide the awkward magazine behind its companion magazine (those were the times when we had to leave W & A together) and feel extremely uncomfortable thinking about how I had deceived the householder into accepting it.

  I often wondered what they must have thought when they discovered the carefully hidden article as they watched me hastily running away