hello everyone, i have an on and off again ex who is a jw.
each time her family gets involved and she's gone again.
i'm debating biting the bullet and doing the work to become baptized, so we can follow through with our engagement.
Breaking off with someone at any age can cause a lot of emotional turmoil, however establishing a new relationship is exciting and will eventually be most rewarding if you choose the right person.
JW is a dangerous cult. jwfacts.com will provide you with a lot of factual information which will assist you in making a sound decision.
There are a lot of nice people out in the normal JW free world.
i would suppose that there are many at very sensitive operations at headquarters and around the world that are moles or double agents a 5th column if you will that are in but mentally out and full of hated for the governing body.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/fifth_column.
a fifth column is any group of people who undermine a larger group from within, usually in favour of an enemy group or nation.
the activities of a fifth column can be overt or clandestine.
For some strange reason I had a vision of Hogan’s Heroes. Those in charge running around like a chicken with its head cut off, while Hogan’s crew have everything under control, providing information back home to the good guys and manipulating things for their own benefit.
Fantasy I know, but it makes me feel good.
hi - first some context - i have been pimo for about 20 years now and so have been to a lot of assemblies in that time.
last weekend i went to a circuit assembly and for the first time afterwards i was able to talk directly to someone who knows i'm out.
i realised then that although i didn't agree with any teachings (i sat picking holes in the arguements as usual) the experience of being there had affected me - the way of life started feeling normal as did the overall way of viewing the world.
I find myself affected if I watch the society’s videos. I still find them somewhat persuasive.
However in the March video when Gerrit Lurch mumbled on about trusting him I was able to break free. Actually I felt nauseous.
The safest way to watch jw videos is through Cedars.
I haven’t been to any meetings of any kind for over twelve months now and I notice that my wife hasn’t been out in field service this month, although we haven’t discussed it. She watched the CTV w5 program on her iPad and it affected her as it wasn’t just me rambling on. I live in hope.
Sorry, this is a bit off topic.
roll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.
in one sentence tell why you left the org.
not 2 sentences.
i came upon this quote relating to the results of hatred: .
"i imagine one of the reasons people cling to their hates so stubbornly is because they sense, once hate is gone, they will be forced to deal with pain.
has your hatred of the organization been an effort to avoid dealing with your pain?
There are days when I become depressed.
The cause is probably tiredness or the pressures of life, however I have noticed that I tend to blame it on my decades of cult experience.
No matter how much I try to get things straight in my mind I find the hatred increasing and I have to watch what I say around my wife. The best therapy is some sort of hard labour on my little property.
Just an example of how I am affected. The next day I will probably be fine.
I am not going this year. I have told a few that if I do go I will partake.
Last year the wine was cloudy and looked “off” or whatever.
I am beginning to wonder if anyone really cares or perhaps they are just going through the motions.
I have noticed that in the last few years there is a distinct lack of “zeal” for any activity, perhaps because we sold the kh 9 years ago and now there is no new one and no money either. Sad isn’t it I don’t think.
ok, so you all looked here??.
this thread is prompted by losch's stupid 'decrees' in the march 2018 broadcast, where he denounced online information that may be 'negative' about the organization.. it strikes me that the gb are so dumb!
the moment someone says "dont look at something", human curiousity will make most people look.
Thanks stuckie for your enthusiasm and being a key member of this forum.
i have been clear now for 22 years but i am still obsessed.
after going on and on about my experiences to friends and family i have finally realised that no one is interested.. they have won.
no one cares about my ptsd or my suicide attempts or my alcohosm.. i have no one to talk to about this but i really need to get the infection out of my system because it is killing me..
We all have periods in our life when we need professional help.
check for helpline phone numbers who will redirect you if they feel it is appropriate.
there is no need for anyone in this day and age to feel that they have to tough it out or whatever.
Get some help which means advice and support in coping with a difficult situation.
i missed my first memorial last year in 60 years.
it always amazed me on this special night that the jw's forget how to park their cars in the parking lot.
i would pull in with my wife and there are 5 brothers giving directions on where and how to park my car.
Loved the video. Right on the mark.
For many decades I used to think I was the only person in existence who saw how ridiculous the whole ceremony was.
I met a bro and sis at the Sunday flea market this morning, really nice people who want me to attend the memorial this year. I calmly explained that I feel we are all Christ’s Brothers and that I would have to partake and it would cause comment.
Bro said that I should partake if I felt that I should. Sis did everything except embrace me to encourage me to come.
They are genuinely nice people but I realise that they are are totally deluded. This causes so much emotional pain all around.
I have come to really loath the organisation but I still realise that I have to continue with my softly softly approach in order to help people.
It isn’t easy being one of exjws.
i thought that this little gem deserved a thread of it's own.. 4. why is it important for us to be present at the memorial if at all possible?.
4 reflect on the importance of attending the memorial.
remember, congregation meetings are part of our worship.
My wife asked me if I was going and I calmly told her that as we are all Christ's brothers I would have to partake and this might be embarrassing for her and those who know me which is most of the cong. She is becoming curious now as to where I get all my info. I told her that most comes from the inconsistencies and changes in the watchtower such as overlapping generations with no scriptural backup. There is still hope.
