He is trying not to be as late as usual but he is still a few days later than every other xjw utuber
I think he wants to watch everyone else and steal all their work
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
He is trying not to be as late as usual but he is still a few days later than every other xjw utuber
I think he wants to watch everyone else and steal all their work
one theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
If they did have new light on shunning they could certainly play it so that they get more bums on seats plus more money in the coffers.
They announce that it’s so close to just around the corner final part of final part that Jehovah really wants people to return to him.
They could have a big push to get all those who left to return and tie this in with no more shunning.
An excuse to drop the shunning would be how loving and kind Jehovah is, he wants one last chance for family to contact disfellowshipped ones and tell them Jehovah still loves them.
They could tie it in with 2023 AGM new light about last min repentance and only the really bad people won’t get a resurrection or will be killed at Armageddon.
https://www.jwupdates.com/post/watchtower-will-take-norwegian-defeat-to-echr.
few norwegian religious communities need to worry after the jehovah's witnesses verdict, according to legal expert vibeke blaker strand.
he has pointed out that it is particularly serious to deprive a religious community of its registration.
They will not challenge
more likely they will have to go alone with it and stop the shunning policies
one theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
I wouldn’t put anything past the sneaky fat GB these days.
They may do something to appease the authorities and then find a way to alleviate responsibility and say it’s a personal decision if you speak to dissed loved ones.
Then everyone seeing that the GB official stance is no shunning but the rank and file still shun because they have been brainwashed to thinking Jehovah actually wants them to do so
one theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
The question is what would it take to get the Norway government to resume giving money to the Borg?
How much shunning could they still get away with or would it have to be none at all?
Is there any sneaky way that the Borg could try to make the court think they have done away with shunning but tell rank and file it’s hot to them or something
So the wording of this U turn is very very interesting.
They say you no longer have to be vaccinated to attend any of their programs.
They used to say you have to confirm that you are fully vaccinated to attend. There was some confusion what fully vaccinated means, some think it means you have to be up to date with your boosters.
Now they don’t say that you no longer have to be fully vaccinated they just say you no longer need to be vaccinated at all.
Its as if they are admitting those fully unvaccinated were right
one theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
One theory why Tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine. He actually said the words we will never ever change it.
They are slowly deleting all of Tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like Norway.
it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in Norway.
What are the odds they coincidentally get new light from Jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?
Steve Let’s comes in next update and says the governing body does not have an issue with beards
talking to disfellowshipped ones. Why not? Because the Bible doesn’t tell us this.
Just imagine the change if they come out and release new light on shunning? It would be monumental even larger than billions may survive Armageddon 2023 AGM new light.
Imagine millions of JWs with loved ones they have been told to shun for years or even decades. Now they are told they can actually talk to them after all in some new light.
Just like the beards thing, you would get many many the same day they hear the new light would go and contact loved ones.
These loved ones who have been shunned for years even decades have had to deal with immense trauma and have had to do a lot of work to get over it.
They had to accept their JW family won’t ever talk to them ever again and move on, some of these shunned ones have had to do a lot of internal work to move on with their lives.
If the GB do have new light from Jehovah and these ones all get connected again, it will bring back all the trauma that they did so much work to cope with
i’ve not been paying close attention to watchtower developments, but talking to a jw yesterday it occurred to me the society (yes, still use that term - old school) have been sending out mixed messages in recent years.
from what i gather, a few years ago the gb announced that during the great tribulation jws would be required to preach a “hailstone message of judgement” which involved telling people it was too late for them to repent and they were definitely going to be destroyed.
there were hints that this could be very soon, “any day now” preaching could stop and the hailstone message come in, kind of thing.
Yes that’s the way things are going, we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know. And we never did.
last night at my bible study group we looked at 1thessalonians ch 5 .
we have been working through the whole letter.
verses 1-11 start with .
You must know that faithful JWs sold houses and cars to donate the money to preaching work
Many did sell up for 75. Some gave a lot to the branch and some just lived of it wasting it all really since they genuinely believed with all their heart what the brothers were saying would happen before the end of the year 1975.
As it got nearer the end of 1975 some started to worry what have I done. Oh shit maybe those brothers got it wrong, oh holy fuck I sold my house and gave up everything based on what they told me!
Apparently anyone who experienced doubts that maybe the brothers were wrong about 1975 were labelled as bad associates or even apostates.
Fast forward to the 2020s and it’s exactly the same with the vaccine and staying fully vaccinated. If you express doubts about the Governing Body direction then you are labelled bad association.
Even now that the GB have done an official U turn on their own fully vaccinated mandates but still if you express doubts that the old direction was wrong then you are get told off. Once you are labelled someone who doubts the vaccines you are someone who doubts the GB. Because the GB never doubted the direction from Jehovah.
I have given this a lot of thought and when I think about relatively intelligent long time JWs I can only put it down to sink cost fallacy. They have invested so much of their lives into the religion they don’t want to consider that it’s not the truth.
I can easily convince anyone that this fully vaccinated direction was wrong. But they don’t want to hear it, some blind loyalty to these clowns in upstate NY.
Same with 1914, all you have to do is stop and think for a short time are they really correct about 1914? But they have such a blind loyalty they don’t want to think about it.
the brainwashing is so strong they somehow think they are being disloyal to Jehovah by doubting the vaccines and thinking about 1914?
1914 generation is long gone.
1975 was a joke 40 years ago.
i know of many witnesses still hanging on for armagedon but when will they give up?
To answer the question if the GB ever admit they are wrong just look at the amount of U turns they have made. This is admitting you were wrong without actually saying it.
They did a U turn on beards and now they are doing a U turn on being fully vaccinated to attend any of their programs.