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  2024 when will Witnesses admit they are wrong???

  by Witness 007 in

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  1914 generation is long gone.

  1975 was a joke 40 years ago.

  i know of many witnesses still hanging on for armagedon but when will they give up?

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  the GB decides that they do care about the whole 1914 problem, they could just set a new date for Armageddon that is far enough out, like say the year 2150, so that no one on the current GB has to answer for a failed prediction. Instead they could tell all of the obedient dubs that its there job to prepare all of humanity for the end of the world.

  They kind of did that with the overlapping generations thing. That bought them enough time to live out their lives so the next GB have to worry about it. These two younger guys on the GB are only just overlappers anyone younger and they have to admit 1914 was wrong

  FFS do research.

  Notsure yes do research but on both sides of the coin. Not just the vaccine apologists, that article tries to say it’s cv19 causing the white fibrous blood clots and not the jabs. But the embalmers all say it’s the vaccinated bodies that have them not the unvaccinated
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  He hasn’t even done any good at being an activist.

  Several times he has been accused of being controlled opposition by the borg. I don’t believe the Borg would actually ever do this but he is so bad at what he does I can understand why some may wonder if it’s true.

  why he tries to play down the largest new light change in recent JW history calling it a nothing burger is beyond me.

  He could have done a great video about if unbelievers are not as likely to survive as those those who have died are likely to be resurrected, then people might as well go back to hoping their relatives die before Armageddon again
  
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  Hailstone message AND everyone will be saved? Questions

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’ve not been paying close attention to watchtower developments, but talking to a jw yesterday it occurred to me the society (yes, still use that term - old school) have been sending out mixed messages in recent years.

  from what i gather, a few years ago the gb announced that during the great tribulation jws would be required to preach a “hailstone message of judgement” which involved telling people it was too late for them to repent and they were definitely going to be destroyed.

  there were hints that this could be very soon, “any day now” preaching could stop and the hailstone message come in, kind of thing.

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  Somewhat vague about having the same chance no matter when you die or are still alive yes, but don’t wish your unbelieving loved ones die beforehand because if they are alive they have the same chance. And when you think they are not vague about everyone being resurrected unless really bad. And they are not vague about how silly it is to wish your loved ones die beforehand so they have a better chance. So they are not vague about that.

  All they are vague about is WHO IS REALLY READY BAD AND WONT GET A RESURRECTION OR WILL BE KILLED AT ARMAGEDDON

  Or to put it another way, if unbelievers are not as likely to survive as those those who have died are likely to be resurrected, then people might as well go back to hoping their relatives die before Armageddon again
  
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  New approach to ministry

  by Mikejw in

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  there is a new approach to ministry where the direction is to just talk to people and listen to what they want to talk about.

  the new school for the midweek meeting is completely different and is all about the new approach .

  even before the no reporting changes field service dropped right off.

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  I’m also amazed that those still in have not yet realised something is not right.

  Take this new light at the 2023 AGM Most JWs have completely missed the largest change in recent JW history, I don’t think they have grasped the difference between the old light and new light. Yes the new light that if you die beforehand or are alive during Armageddon you have the same chance of being in paradise.

  It’s all very well saying we can’t be dogmatic and we just don’t know. But they do seem to be dogmatic that everyone who ever died will be resurrected unless really bad and now there is the same chance if alive during Armageddon.

  So there is a chance billions of people will make it through Armageddon

  just billions will be resurrected
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  Hailstone message AND everyone will be saved? Questions

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’ve not been paying close attention to watchtower developments, but talking to a jw yesterday it occurred to me the society (yes, still use that term - old school) have been sending out mixed messages in recent years.

  from what i gather, a few years ago the gb announced that during the great tribulation jws would be required to preach a “hailstone message of judgement” which involved telling people it was too late for them to repent and they were definitely going to be destroyed.

  there were hints that this could be very soon, “any day now” preaching could stop and the hailstone message come in, kind of thing.

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  Most JWs have completely missed the largest change in recent JW history, I don’t think they have grasped the difference between the old light and new light. Yes the new light that if you die beforehand or are alive during Armageddon you have the same chance of being in paradise.
  

  It’s all very well saying we can’t be dogmatic and we just don’t know. But they do seem to be dogmatic that everyone who ever died will be resurrected unless really bad and now there is the same chance if alive during Armageddon
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  New approach to ministry

  by Mikejw in

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  2. friends

  there is a new approach to ministry where the direction is to just talk to people and listen to what they want to talk about.

  the new school for the midweek meeting is completely different and is all about the new approach .

  even before the no reporting changes field service dropped right off.

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  Silentbuddah there have been lots of videos and the changed midweek meeting program is all about the new approach

  we even have 1 min parts now and a few 2 min parts so that as many bros and sis as possible can have parts on the meeting.

  some parts are literally just talking to people about unrelated stuff and not mentioning the Bible at all, and this is recommended well done you implemented the new approach

  also we had parts showing someone unhappy and asking questions about the blood issue or something else and the idea is to just walk away.

  Yes this was a recent assessment on the new school system
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  JWs in Norway lost to the state - will not get state support back

  by BelisemDeBelimakom in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  translated with google translate:.

  the trial went before oslo district court in january, and now the district court has concluded that the state is acquitted.

  jehovah's witnesses are also ordered to pay court costs of just over nok 1.1 million.. https://www-vg-no.translate.goog/nyheter/innenriks/i/2bljxg/staten-frikjennes-etter-aa-ha-blitt-saksoekt-av-jehovas-vitner-melder-dagen?_x_tr_sl=ka&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp.

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  What are the odds they coincidentally get new light from Jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?

  Steve Let’s comes in next update and says the governing body does not have an issue with beards

  talking to disfellowshipped ones. Why not? Because the Bible doesn’t tell us this.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  It’s almost as if he is trying to be late and not just a little but really obviously late with anything going on in JWland.

  Or he misses it altogether perhaps because he was so late there is no point covering it now.

  Then he gets it all wrong and misses the largest change in recent JW history and calls it a nothing burger. Yes the new light that if you die beforehand or are alive during Armageddon you have the same chance of being in paradise. And he called this a nothing burger.

  Its as if he is trying to be bad at what he does 🤷🏻‍♂️
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  The Vaccine mandate has been lifted, with no explanation or apologies

  by redsetter2 in

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  Mikejw

  Interesting the way they implemented this U turn.

  “The document has been removed from JW hub”

  no apologies no reasons why they were wrong before no explanation for this U turn.

  All those brothers who were not allowed to go to Elders school because they were not fully vaccinated should have another school put on just for the unvaccinated who were not allowed to go
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  Hailstone message AND everyone will be saved? Questions

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’ve not been paying close attention to watchtower developments, but talking to a jw yesterday it occurred to me the society (yes, still use that term - old school) have been sending out mixed messages in recent years.

  from what i gather, a few years ago the gb announced that during the great tribulation jws would be required to preach a “hailstone message of judgement” which involved telling people it was too late for them to repent and they were definitely going to be destroyed.

  there were hints that this could be very soon, “any day now” preaching could stop and the hailstone message come in, kind of thing.

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  It is an indisputable fact that they have moved closer to that idea with the new light.

  the question how close are they to Billions will survive Armageddon

  I think the official answer is we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know, but we can trust the merciful judge of all the earth to do the right thing

  so yes Slim they have once again moved closer to the Christadelphian model, and the possibility is there that billions now living will never die