Well said Razziel,
I feel the same way with my folks.
since finding out the truth about the truth myself and having successfully extricated myself and my parents about the jw's, i find myself with a new dilema that being they still believe the bible as a literal book for their salvation as i has read all of thomas paines works and how the bible is not very good for the human family, as they are of advancing years would it be inappropriate to shatter their illusions of some kind of paradise and let them flounder in a moral precipice and wonder what their lives have been about.
on the flip side once their time has come how would i feel for not telling them their false views.
at the moment i am in the deist point of view, with a tendency of the agnostic, it is quite a dilema!.
Well said Razziel,
I feel the same way with my folks.
since finding out the truth about the truth myself and having successfully extricated myself and my parents about the jw's, i find myself with a new dilema that being they still believe the bible as a literal book for their salvation as i has read all of thomas paines works and how the bible is not very good for the human family, as they are of advancing years would it be inappropriate to shatter their illusions of some kind of paradise and let them flounder in a moral precipice and wonder what their lives have been about.
on the flip side once their time has come how would i feel for not telling them their false views.
at the moment i am in the deist point of view, with a tendency of the agnostic, it is quite a dilema!.
I get into it with my mom sometimes. I throw in a tid bit or two about certain obvious flaws with the borg but I don't push the issue too much with her. I mostly argue with her about the fact that she stauchly believes that 99.0% of humanity will be slaughtered by Jehooba. Its hopeless. She's in very 70's and has been a JW for almost 50 years. So whats the point in telling your elderly parents the real truth about the troof? Let them go in peace believing that there IS a Santa Claus.
many people will scoff at the thought that the org will collapse.
i agree that it will never collapse but the crumbling has begun.
think about the following.....they have a serious lack of potential future leaders.
The Borg in 20 years will probably be Leaner and Meaner with more of a core group of followers (basically the biggest suckers ever) in the western countries but will continue to expand in develping countries. I will GAURANTEE that you will start to see more and more ethnic people at the top Level's and even in the governing body. the GB will possibly be composed of an asian, a latino or 2 for sure, an African American (Theres already an African American which wouldv'e kicked the bucket by then so he'll be replaced). Yes, they will have to shift their marketing model with the growth of developing coutries and the demise of the western markets. Unfortunately, the WT will be around for a long time....
the governing body bank has sold the assembly hall in barcelona city (spain).
now, we have not any en barcelona city!.
where is our money?
JHK, are they not using the money from the sale of this assembly hall to help fund the purchase of Land and materials for the contruction of the new assembly hall?
for those who still show up at the meetings, how do you manage?.
do you still offer comments and how do you actually muster up the boldness to gave talks and still do all of those craps?..
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stillajwexelder wrote "It really is quite easy. Just set your bullshit deflectors to maximum setting."
Thats Hilarious. Couldn't have said it better myself.
How do I manage the boresessions? Well, Between taking my kids to the bathroom (wasting as much time as possible) to Going outside for a "walk" during the washtowel study (wasting as much time as possible), to checking out the new blonde visiting who's siting in front of me (especially nice during the song when I can get a full view ) to just plain thinking about work, my next vacation, whatever.......... it goes by pretty fast. Oh, and plus I never make comments or do any talks and I only go 2 to 3 times a month which helps. Thats how I cope. I gotta make some sort of presence, ya know happy wife happy Life.
program 2011 - 2012. theme: 'let god's will take place' - matt.
6:10. morning session.
9:40 music.
In order to be able to tolerate it (I go to be able to spend time with wife and kids) my routine is this: We get there, after about 20 mins I Leave and go with a buddy of mine for breakfast, coffee, some chit chat. Get there just before the morning boresession is over. Go to Lunch with the fam. socialize a bit, sit down for another 20min at the start of the afternoon boresessions, go outside, walk around a bit, get in my car and go for a coffee, try to waste as much time as possible, and then get back about 30 min before the whole borefest is over.. then we make plans to go to dinner with some family and close friends... and thats it. It really goes by pretty quick.
I order to be able to tolerate it (I go to be able to spend time with wife and kids) my routine is this: We get there, after about 20 mins I Leave and go with a buddy of mine for breakfast, coffee, some chit chat. Get there just before the morning boresession is over. Go to Lunch with the fam. socialize a bit, sit down for another 20min at the start of the afternoon boresessions, go outside, walk around a bit, get in my car and go for a coffee, try to waste as much time as possible, and then get back about 30 min before the whole borefest is over.. then we make plans to go to dinner with some family and close friends... and thats it. It really goes by pretty quick.
this is a bit of a rebuttal to greybeards ("lack faith in a creator.... watch this") post and the reason why many people lack any faith in a loving creator.
granted, there could be a superior intelligence that could have set certain events in motion but i do not believe there is a loving heavenly father who gives a rats ass about humanity!
its just that in all of recorded history, the human race has suffered (and continue's to suffer) a great deal.
Tater, Funny Video. I Love Gervais's humor.
this is a bit of a rebuttal to greybeards ("lack faith in a creator.... watch this") post and the reason why many people lack any faith in a loving creator.
granted, there could be a superior intelligence that could have set certain events in motion but i do not believe there is a loving heavenly father who gives a rats ass about humanity!
its just that in all of recorded history, the human race has suffered (and continue's to suffer) a great deal.
factfinder, yes I forgot that part. So 'God' in his great wisdom "Hurled" to the vicinity of the earth a bunch of powerful, invisible, evil spirit creatures with the full knowledge that they will torment the shit out of humanity.... cause we're supposidly the great great great great great great great....... etc. grandchildren of some guy that God supposedly created in the first place who pissed him off so that God is now taking it out on the rest of us so now we (humanity) deserve more punishment than we got in the prior 6,000 yrs before the great hurling. You know, just typing this post makes me realize how stupid the whole thing is. Speaking of the great hurling..... I think I'm gonna Hurl
had pancakes with tree blood (my favorite!).
sipping coffee, going to the mountains today.
ah, life is good.
I'm only of the only suckers on this thread that actually went today..... Have to keep the wify poo happy ya know.