to me it is quite evident that the gt spoken about in matthew 24, mark 13 and luke 21 is a one time, non-repeatable localized event resulting in the destruction of jerusalem and the temple followed by the dispersion of surviving jews throughout the nations.. however, what is not so clear to most is that the gt of revelation deals with the same event.
my understanding is that the gb of jehovah witnesses has no clue as to how to interpret the apocalyptic messages found both in the synoptics and revelation.
but steve greg has armageddon down pat.
me it is quite evident that the GT spoken about in Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 is a one time, non-repeatable localized event resulting in the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple followed by the dispersion of surviving Jews throughout the nations.
the truth is most active jws would probably agree that most of the teachings are not right, the new thing is that we just don’t know.. the governing body now say they get things wrong and make mistakes as they are not inspired and not infallible.
yet they are still to be trusted no matter what?.
they are not trusted.
The truth is most active JWs would probably agree that most of the teachings are not right, the new thing is that we just don’t know.
The governing body now say they get things wrong and make mistakes as they are not inspired and not infallible. Yet they are still to be trusted no matter what?
they are not trusted. If there is another pandemic and another doubtful vaccine that the GB say is safe, I don’t think many JWs would listen obey and get vaxed this time around.
have some time thinking about my recent and less recent personal history because of the summer holiday.. the 90's crossed my mind.
the years i became pimo.
a friend, a room mate during the 1993 moscow international convention, went to university.
I think,,,,,.
,,,,, people just stay in the Borg because of family,, friends or of course,,, the sunk cost fallacy.
Even if they no longer believe ""it"".
This is so true. Lots on here come up with reasons why the JW doctrine isn’t correct.
The truth is most active JWs would probably agree but the new thing is that we just don’t know.
The governing body now say they get things wrong and make mistakes as they are not inspired and not infallible. Yet they are still to be trusted no matter what?
they are not trusted. If there is another pandemic and another doubtful vaccine that the GB say is safe, I don’t think many JWs would listen obey and get vaxed this time around.
https://youtu.be/jsmbtv4nafi?si=ezj0dnudyjls4knc.
there was a time they preached the great tribulation was a short period of time between the fall of babylon and jesus coming back to save them, now they realize there are difficult years ahead of us, watch this latest morning worship video by per christensen on this subject .
Revelation Climax book released in 1988.
I still have my original copy
The Borg applied for UN NGO status in 1991 & was accepted in 1992.
Subsequent affiliation for 9 years until a Guardian newspaper called them out.
The Borg was found out. Within a week of this discovery the Borg formally applied to have their membership revoked.
This triggered the Borg to issue an "insert" to the Revelation Climax book which was studied about a half dozen times,,,prior to this discovery & insert.
The Revelation Climax book was only studied once or twice using this,,, at least once.
Subsequently the Revelation Climax book has been unceremoniously moth - balled & never discussed.
WOW!!
Can you show what the change was in the Rev book?
new york times 9/5/24.
" there are only two shakers left.
they've still got utopia in their sites.. "by jordan kisner.
Yes it’s a huge red flag that they used to say they knew and now say they don’t.
What else do they claim they know right now that in the future they will have to admit that they don’t know and never did.
They are throwing old deceased GB members under the bus.
What will it take for the average JW to realise that this is just a human run organisation?
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
He is about as successful in life as anyone who has failed at marriage failed as a father and failed at getting his life sorted out.
He has an unsuccessful YouTube channel that he was begging to get help or he would have let his editor go and have to do it himself which he hasn’t got time to do because he is so busy. Doing what exactly Lloyd? Visiting sex workers?
on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
are the two of them attending meetings using aliases behind a black screen on Zoom? If that's the case
Yes they could be. When one of the CSA victims turned up at his new KHall the attendant said he’s not here.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
He just posted something saying it’s his 45 birthday
”Though I personally find it difficult to get too excited about my birthday due to my JW background, I feel incredibly fortunate to have reached this landmark despite some incredibly challenging experiences and setbacks in my life stretching all the way back to being raised in a doomsday cult as a child. I am privileged to be able to celebrate with friends and loved ones who genuinely care about me and keep spurring me on to succeed.”
I have to ask - succeed in what? Life? How is that going for you Lloyd?
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Went on holiday to Thailand again to date sex workers? He has to spend all this donated funds somewhere.
He has got banned from most of the brothels where he lives because they were losing too many sex workers
a lot of ink has been spilled on the topic of the cross.
the wt felt it had uncovered some deep conspiracy when they found a number of words were used to describe how jesus was understood to have been killed.
there was an extensive thread many years ago that in short strongly supports the conclusion that at least some nt writers envisioned a cross, while others had a tree in mind.
There are so many things in the Bible that we will never know. Cross or stake is one of them.
was Jesus Michael? Maybe maybe not.
was Abbadon the holder of the keys to the Abyss a goodun or A bad one? He is the master of the demons so would that be Satan or Jesus? The Jws go and for on that one.
It’s all about interpretation. Some religious type's really believe their interpretation is the truth, and you get some just as strong the opposite
