so do you feel bad throwing away your old literature?.
what about your old song book or bible from your early days in the org?.
if so, is it because of sentimentality, monetary cost or because it might be 'sacred' ?.
Didn't bother me a bit when I loaded up three large trash bags of books, and assorted mags. When I was asked by a well-meaning but somewhat intellectually challenged uber-dub why I was throwing away all those spiritual treasures I told them it was because they were all now "apostate" teachings as "nu-lite" had changed the "truth".
He didn't get it!
Please explain.
It is not clear to me that the people are not witnesses. How do you come to that conclusion based upon the image?
None of the men are wearing the GB ordered suits and ties. No Payless dress shoes. The woman is wearing tennis shoes, not flat, plain Payless dress shoes, and she is not wearing the GB mandated mid-calf length "modest" skirt with a high collared sack with sleeves.
And the most obvious sign they are not JDubya's. . . no jdubya dot (B)org pendants, lapel pins, or stickers to be seen.
the internet is the archive for civilization.. watchtower cannot hide it's history.. are we seeing the beginning of a mass exodus out of her?.
Are we seeing the beginning of a mass exodus out of her?
No, not by a long ways. As long as there are people who do not think rationally, who fall victim to the love bombing, who think that ever changing interpretations of the Bible, who believe seven imperfect men are the sole mouthpiece of God himself there will be no mass exodus.
not sure if anyone saw this but i just came across a change.org petition that already has a good amount of followers.. just thought i'd share!
not sure if anyone else has seen it.
https://www.change.org/p/launch-an-investigation-to-determine-if-jehovah-s-witnesses-have-a-right-to-use-coercion-forms-of-mental-torture-to-force-its-members-not-to-leave.
This made for an interesting read. However the WTB&T$ will never admit to those accusations. The claim is, "We in no way deny anyone the "freedom" of choice. There will be consequences for those choices though."
Never have they denied anyone the choice of leaving. They do not even deny still in family members the choice to associate with ones who leave the church. They also do not deny the "choice" of "good" JDubya's to have nothing to do with someone who has left. That is their get out of jail free card. They will never claim or admit to promotion of shunning. They just strongly encourage the "sheep" to do so, all the while claiming that it is the R&F who make that choice. That absolves them of responsibility for the actions of the amah-arets. Just like it was the R&F who "ran ahead" and assumed that the Big A was coming in 1975.
what is the reasoning behind having so many hoops to jump through to login?.
most sites require only a user name and password.
so why user name, password, not a robot, capcha code, then finally login?.
What is the reasoning behind having so many hoops to jump through to login?
Most sites require only a user name and password. So why user name, password, not a robot, capcha code, then finally login?
And no, I don't need any smart alec comments such as, "If you don't like it don't post or login!"
so any scuttle-butt on the wherefores and why's of the disappearance of song 139 and the april km from jdubya dot org?.
seems strange even for them to release something and just a few days later nuke it.
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So any scuttle-butt on the wherefores and why's of the disappearance of song 139 and the April KM from JDubya dot org?
Seems strange even for them to release something and just a few days later nuke it.
it started in the 1870's then throughout the 20th century.
and now here we are 15 years into the 21st century.
how many generations is that?
How many generations is that?!
Just one. . .if you are a good little sheeple JDubya.
i've always suspected this was the wt society's view when i was in the jehovah's witness organization - but never knew the head of the writing committee karl adams had written a letter to nathan knorr ( then wt president ) recommending a change regarding reporting field service time as it wrongly emphasized jw members being seen as mainly being approved due to field service statistics - instead of emphasizing christian qualities of love, kindness, peace, etc.. karl adams had been personally handpicked by nathan knorr to be the head of the writing department.
in 1971 he wrote a letter to knorr which he wanted shared with the entire governing body as well .
i'll share the main parts of that letter.. on pg.
A JW man could actually be an asshole, a jerk- yet if he turned in 20 or more hours a month and pioneered- he'd get appointed an elder.
So VERY true! I know one personally who fooled around on two JDubya wives. Embezzled from his work-place, was a practicing drunk, evaded taxes and was caught three times, was a proven chronic liar, viciously violent, and yet would report thirty or forty hours every month spent driving the back roads miles from town MAYBE talking to a total of four people during the whole month! Now he is an appointed hounder!
today's wt study, from the december 15, 2014, is based on mark 7:14, which says:.
so calling the crowd to him again, he said to them: listen to me, all of you, and understand the meaning.
the two words at the end, "the meaning", are not found in the greek.
And of course the last song just had to be 120
Listen, OBEY, and be Blessed!
today's wt study, from the december 15, 2014, is based on mark 7:14, which says:.
so calling the crowd to him again, he said to them: listen to me, all of you, and understand the meaning.
the two words at the end, "the meaning", are not found in the greek.
I pulled a few damning statements from the JDubya cd.
A WT contributor in April 1881 named J.H. Paton wrote that the leaven illustrated the glorious success of the work. In WT's of 1900, 1910 and finally in 1975 his assertion was roundly condemned in strong words, concluding, ". . .the argument used by J.H. Paton in April 1881 does not hold good. . .the parable is not an illustration on the positive side."
As commented above by earlier members today's "lesson" was a complete reversal of what was taught as "truth" by WT for the last hundred years or so.
I wonder how fast the current governing body would be booted out as apostate if the old regime were still around?
